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SonytendoAmiibo on 24 October 2016
Valdath said:
I really really REALLY hope Ninty sells the dock individually too.

That way i can just take the console to my GF's house and put it on a second dock.

I'm actually starting to like the Switch tbh.

 

You realize what your girlfriend will say when you hook up an empty dock to her TV? "Where is my Switch?" Just warning you.

   

Hey! They got SONY on my amiibo! Wait a minute. Two great gaming tastes that game great together!

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GhaudePhaede010 on 25 October 2016
Lawlight said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

That is your goalposts moving for the sake of your point. However, if Nintendo has a plan and they are executing it with success, you are undeniably incorrect.

 

With that said, yes the ultimate goal is to sell the console but they are clearly taking steps and are being very clear about their steps and the process they are trying to use to sell their console. Other than that, they did accomplish their goal, whether you think that should have been their goal is your debate to fight, but without a doubt, their initial mission is a success.

I didn't move any goal post since I didn't set any - my post was about how the trailer does not have enough information.

And their initial mission is only a success if it's positive interest, which we're not sure about yet. I think they're pushing back details because there's plenty of negatives and want people to mostly remember what they saw in the trailer.

If we are talking general internet chatter and the limited understanding of nongamer interest, Nintendo has accomplished their goal.

The goalposts were not set by you; rather, Nintendo. Then you say what you think Nintendo should have accomplished and that is you moving the goalposts. Nintendo did what they wanted to do with this three minute teaser. On top of that, they gave a time table for the rest of your questions to be answered. That is job well done.



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oniyide on 25 October 2016
NightDragon83 said:

So far the only "mistake" Nintendo is making is once again rolling the dice with a console that will not compete directly with Sony or M$ in terms of raw power and sharing a similar software library, and is instead betting on its unique features as being the selling point for the console.

The PSP comparison is just lame... the PSP was never intended as a console / handheld hybrid that was replacing the PS2, and it certainly didn't have detachable wireless controllers or support a "pro" style wireless controller to cater to the needs of all types of gamers.

They cant compete directly with Sony and MS, so it would have been a mistake to even try.



Porcupine_I on 25 October 2016

When Sony announced the reveal of the PS4 they didn't give ANY information, that's why it failed so hard. Now it's all clear to me.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

ratuscafoarterea on 25 October 2016
Faelco said:

 but one thing is certain: Nintendo's communication and marketing just sucks and the community overreacting and overhyping anything from them is tiring.

I agree , Nintendo and the Nintendo fanbase has always been like this.



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ratuscafoarterea on 25 October 2016
oniyide said:
NightDragon83 said:

So far the only "mistake" Nintendo is making is once again rolling the dice with a console that will not compete directly with Sony or M$ in terms of raw power and sharing a similar software library, and is instead betting on its unique features as being the selling point for the console.

The PSP comparison is just lame... the PSP was never intended as a console / handheld hybrid that was replacing the PS2, and it certainly didn't have detachable wireless controllers or support a "pro" style wireless controller to cater to the needs of all types of gamers.

They cant compete directly with Sony and MS, so it would have been a mistake to even try.

No, you're wrong, Nintendo could compete with Sony and Microsfot, in fact they are in better finincial shape then Sony, so what makes you think that they couldn't. It's just that they don't have the will to do it.



Soundwave on 25 October 2016
ratuscafoarterea said:
Faelco said:

 but one thing is certain: Nintendo's communication and marketing just sucks and the community overreacting and overhyping anything from them is tiring.

I agree , Nintendo and the Nintendo fanbase has always been like this.

I'm a Nintendo fan, but it's oh so freaking true, lol. 

It's kinda like the parent who thinks he/she should get a medal for looking after their kids for a week. 

No, you're *supposed* to look after your damn kids, lol. All the time. You don't deserve a medal for that, that's what your supposed to do. 

Nintendo being able to make a 3 minute "trailer" in which they: 1.) Didn't embarass themselves, 2.) Make their new product look like a child's toy, or 3.) confuse the viewer as to what the product is about, is now suddenly grounds for giving Nintendo a trophy, lol. 

Like jeez, talk about lowering the bar. 



Puppyroach on 25 October 2016

I mostly saw positives around the announcments. They showed Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, Mario Kart and Skyrim. That is alot of revealed games in one commercial. And the whole concept of home console/portable console is old now, they shouldn´t even describe it as one or the other, just a very portable system for both home and on the go.



Lawlight on 25 October 2016
GhaudePhaede010 said:
Lawlight said:

I didn't move any goal post since I didn't set any - my post was about how the trailer does not have enough information.

And their initial mission is only a success if it's positive interest, which we're not sure about yet. I think they're pushing back details because there's plenty of negatives and want people to mostly remember what they saw in the trailer.

If we are talking general internet chatter and the limited understanding of nongamer interest, Nintendo has accomplished their goal.

The goalposts were not set by you; rather, Nintendo. Then you say what you think Nintendo should have accomplished and that is you moving the goalposts. Nintendo did what they wanted to do with this three minute teaser. On top of that, they gave a time table for the rest of your questions to be answered. That is job well done.

So Nintendo is trying to get the nongamers back on board? I wish them good luck with that now that smartphones are a thing.



Lawlight on 25 October 2016
ratuscafoarterea said:
oniyide said:

They cant compete directly with Sony and MS, so it would have been a mistake to even try.

No, you're wrong, Nintendo could compete with Sony and Microsfot, in fact they are in better finincial shape then Sony, so what makes you think that they couldn't. It's just that they don't have the will to do it.

Surely you're being sarcastic here, right? What next? The only reason the WiiU sales are so low is because Nintendo did not want to compete with Sony and MS?