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Ockham's Razor carves up this conspiracy hypothesis rather nicely.

On another note, if you call an election "rigged" when there's almost three weeks left before it, it's probably because you've foreseen your eventual defeat and have run out scapegoats.



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I believe there are 2 to 4 million dead voters on current rosters- so those are potential fraudulent votes- additionally many states ask for little to no id or identity confirmation- so ineligible voters can easily vote in those situations- but this type of voter fraud only effects a very close race in particular states- which can be the difference in win or lose- However;

The real and most damaging "election rigging" has to do with the blatant and unprecedented bias/censorship or even propaganda of the main stream media- I have never seen it this bad in my lifetime - The mainstream media is not even trying to make pretense of objectivity in this election - the wikki leaks which they have reported on very little confirm the bias many of us knew existed but I did not even imagine who closely the Clinton campaign, the DNC, State Dept etc have colluded to get Hillary elected- If anyone says "its just to thwart Trump" they need to look again as they did a number on her democratic primary rivals too

I can t imagine anyone, regardless of political views that is comfortable with how this campaign has evolved as it relates to various organizations, institutions and individuals who are supposed to help in maintaining fair elections



Bandorr said:

You are like a mom with a sick child.  You will do and buy anything someone says as long as they promise you it will make him well. That is the same here. You will believe every video and article simply because you WANT there to be proof. You WANT democrats/dnc/Hilary to look evil. You want it so bad you will accept anything as instant proof without any thought.

Wow. The lack of self-awareness here is astounding. Is that not your own stance, but merely in reverse? You were very quick to accept the allegations that Trump sexually harassed people: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8096036

Sure, the video may be embellished, but the fact that Scott Foval was fired afterward suggests that something seriously unethical was going on. Even if the video is completely made up, there is still plenty of evidence on how evil Democrats, Republicans, and Hillary are; we don't need conspiracies for that.



SuaveSocialist said:
Ockham's Razor carves up this conspiracy hypothesis rather nicely.

On another note, if you call an election "rigged" when there's almost three weeks left before it, it's probably because you've foreseen your eventual defeat and have run out scapegoats.

I would say prisoner dilemma does as well, as you would need both parties keeping silence at all times. Namely when both parties contain the most opposites sides of choices. 



 

Bandorr said:
StarDoor said:

Did you not watch the first video? The issue there is that Democrats were paying people to incite violence at Trump rallies. You seem so sure that this is a false conspiracy theory, but Scott Foval, the National Field Director for the left-wing organization Americans United for Change, was FIRED after the first video was released. Is that a coincidence?

As for the polls, I'm not convinced that Trump is actually winning or anything, but you seem to have way too much faith in people who are clearly pushing an agenda. Nearly all of the media and aggregate polling sites are owned and updated by blatently left-wing people, so that doesn't help your case in dismissing poll bias.

DId you read the article? If i stand over your shoulder and ask you the same question over and over.. will you eventually snap? Yes

if I show ONLY that part of the video - will people think you have anger issues? Yes

If I show the whole video - will people see the context and realize you are validated in your explosion? Yes

Context - context is very very important. He has been caught lying and editing videos again. What are the chances of him doing it again?  High. Ask your self why was it editted so much - actually put some thought into this conspiracy.

You are like a mom with a sick child.  You will do and buy anything someone says as long as they promise you it will make him well. That is the same here. You will believe every video and article simply because you WANT there to be proof. You WANT democrats/dnc/Hilary to look evil. You want it so bad you will accept anything as instant proof without any thought.

editing or not there are plenty of straightforward statements about how they attempted and suceeded in disrupting some Trump events as well as feeding into a clear narrative being put forth via the media and the Clinton campaign  ( i am talking about the 1st video, i have not watched the 2nd video yet)

per wikki leaks, the Clinton campaign is rellying on an "unaware and complacent" base to support them -  why would anyone want to be part of that much less defenfd it?



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People acting like this is the first time voter fraud has ever happened :O



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Dunban67 said:

editing or not there are plenty of straightforward statements about how they attempted and suceeded in disrupting some Trump events as well as feeding into a clear narrative being put forth via the media and the Clinton campaign  ( i am talking about the 1st video, i have not watched the 2nd video yet)

per wikki leaks, the Clinton campaign is rellying on an "unaware and complacent" base to support them -  why would anyone want to be part of that much less defenfd it?

The first video is garbage.  There are parts where a question is asked, then you see a blink and then the person answers something.  Why would you need to edit from the question to the answer unless they are not in the same context.  You see that right in the very beginning of the video.  There is no need to edit at that point and when someone does it totally makes the video suspect.



Theres some shady shit going on over at Reddit

https://streamable.com/2yg2 (wont embed, please click)

 



Machiavellian said:
Dunban67 said:

editing or not there are plenty of straightforward statements about how they attempted and suceeded in disrupting some Trump events as well as feeding into a clear narrative being put forth via the media and the Clinton campaign  ( i am talking about the 1st video, i have not watched the 2nd video yet)

per wikki leaks, the Clinton campaign is rellying on an "unaware and complacent" base to support them -  why would anyone want to be part of that much less defenfd it?

The first video is garbage.  There are parts where a question is asked, then you see a blink and then the person answers something.  Why would you need to edit from the question to the answer unless they are not in the same context.  You see that right in the very beginning of the video.  There is no need to edit at that point and when someone does it totally makes the video suspect.

I am talking about statements the various opratives made that would be difficult or impossible to misinterpret-   There are more than a few in the video that don t need edits or explanation-  they stand on their own merrit

on another note  did you see the incident in Atlanta were the "environmental" candidates tour buss dumped raw sweage in the street (  Hazmat was called to vclen up)   but their response was the most telling-  "they did not know they had done anying wrong..."   deflecting, blaming-   may not seem like a big deal to some but there is so much evidence out there including the wikki links that says-  the law is not for them or their close allies,  just for the rest of us



Trump is just f*cking fixing an excuse he can use if he looses. thats all this is.
what if he wins then? is it still vote fraud? ofcourse not.. it is only gonna be that if he looses..



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