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What match are you excited for at WWE Payback 2017?

Neville vs. Austin Aries ... 1 5.88%
 
Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyat... 3 17.65%
 
The Hardy Boyz vs. Cesaro... 3 17.65%
 
Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jer... 4 23.53%
 
Bayley vs. Alexa Bliss (Raw Women's Title) 3 17.65%
 
Seth Rollins vs. Samoa Joe 1 5.88%
 
Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman 2 11.76%
 
Total:17

Please, WWE. For the love of God, whatever you do in this draft, just leave AJ and Nakamura alone.



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Nakamura's debut was amazing!!!



PAOerfulone said:
Please, WWE. For the love of God, whatever you do in this draft, just leave AJ and Nakamura alone.

I've honestly never been so worried about a new draft.  Reigns on Smackdown will kill Nakamura.

On another  note, supposedly Reigns has creative control in his contract?



Where'd you here that?
I doubt it's true because where would Reigns if he hypothetically threated to leave if he did?



Best debut I can remember in a very long time!

20,000 people climaxing at once = Nakamura's theme song.



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PAOerfulone said:

Where'd you here that?
I doubt it's true because where would Reigns if he hypothetically threated to leave if he did?

Hearsay, supposedly he said it in a podcast with Jericho.



BasilZero said:
No one rated above a 8 for WM36 xD

I'm just really surprised it got that many 8s.  If you took the best matches from WM, you'd have a solid WWE PPV.  The problem is all the subpar stuff that surrounded it.  

I'm not proclaiming Dave Meltzer's ratings as gospel or anything but I think everything here falls in line with the general concensus, so I'm posting it to give a kind of overview:

NXT Takeover: Orlando

SAnitY vs. Tye/Ruby/Roddy/Hero 3.25

Black vs. Almas 3.25

AOP vs. DIY vs. Revival 4.5

Asuka vs. Moon 4.25

Roode vs. Nakamura 4.5

Wrestlemania 33

Neville vs. Aries 3.75

Andre Battle Royale 2

Ambrose vs. Corbin 2

Styles vs. Shane 4

Owens vs. Jericho 3.5

Bayley vs. Charlotte vs. Sasha vs. Nia 3.25

Hardyz vs. Club vs. Cesaro/Sheamus vs. Enzo/Cass 3.75

Bella/Cena vs. Miz/Maryse 2.25

Rollins vs. HHH 3.5

Orton vs. Wyatt 1.5

Lesnar vs. Goldberg 3.5

Naomi vs. Bliss vs. Carmella vs. Mickie vs. Natalya vs. Becky 1.5

Reigns vs. Taker 3

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/63rfe9/meltzers_wrestlemania_33_and_takeover_orlando/

 

Pretty clear to me that, as a wrestling show, Takeover was better than Wrestlemania.  Some people really like all the auxillary stuff that comes with Wrestlemania, though, which is something I care nothing about.  I look at it as just another PPV.



Let's predict the WWE Superstar Shake-Up!

My prediction:
SmackDown Superstars who will go to Raw:
AJ Styles (though I hope this one is not true because AJ Styles made SmackDown Live amazing over the last year. He is the franchise player in SmackDown just like Undertaker, Batista, Edge etc. were back in the day. And I also want him to feud with Orton)
Alexa Bliss
Kalisto
Apollo Crews
Dean Ambrose (will vacate his IC Championship)

Raw Superstars who will go to SmackDown:
Charlotte Flair
The New Day
Rusev
Sami Zayn



Dr.Vita said:

Let's predict the WWE Superstar Shake-Up!

My prediction:
SmackDown Superstars who will go to Raw:
AJ Styles (though I hope this one is not true because AJ Styles made SmackDown Live amazing over the last year. He is the franchise player in SmackDown just like Undertaker, Batista, Edge etc. were back in the day. And I also want him to feud with Orton)
Alexa Bliss
Kalisto
Apollo Crews
Dean Ambrose (will vacate his IC Championship)

Raw Superstars who will go to SmackDown:
Charlotte Flair
The New Day
Rusev
Sami Zayn

Ambrose takes his title with him.  I remember it was a story when Smackdown had no majour title since they were both on Raw at one point.



If Styles leaves SDL then it's clear to me that the WWE still cares more about RAW. The guy is clearly a draw. The only plus would be (hopefully) that he'd reunite with the Club.

It would probably also mean that he'd be there to put over Reigns. That depresses me.

Zayn on SDL needs to happen. He's just a gate-keeper on RAW.