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What match are you excited for at WWE Payback 2017?

Neville vs. Austin Aries ... 1 5.88%
 
Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyat... 3 17.65%
 
The Hardy Boyz vs. Cesaro... 3 17.65%
 
Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jer... 4 23.53%
 
Bayley vs. Alexa Bliss (Raw Women's Title) 3 17.65%
 
Seth Rollins vs. Samoa Joe 1 5.88%
 
Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman 2 11.76%
 
Total:17

Watching the Tito Santana honoring makes me realize something. Wrestlers should be grabbing all the titles in promotions outside of WWE. When WWE buys those promotions, those titles are recognized by WWE. It is most likely the best way to be recognized as a champ without being railroaded by Vince or buried by HHH.



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Ganoncrotch said:
No option for the 2nd highest subscribed Wrestling Promotion on YouTube? What Culture Pro Wrestling (WCPW) bit strange considering the brand has featured Kurt Angle, Cody Rhodes , Aaron Stevens (Damian Sandow), Jay Lethal and a ton of other great talent (Local Hero Joe Hendry easily one of the best actors they have in the promotion on the mic)

But yeah if not WCPW then it would have to be WWE since they are the monopoly really on Western professional Wrestling for the majority of people.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAl6NLC0tnubiCMzYXawG3g

After 2 seconds of searching I found them in 5th not 2nd. And that was 2 seconds, I could have missed someone else bigger than them.

WCPW and WhatCulture Wrestling aren't the same channel and the WCPW channel is still smaller than WWE, TNA, NJPW and ROH's channels although it's not far off pushing past the latter 2.



BasilZero said:
bunchanumbers said:
Watching the Tito Santana honoring makes me realize something. Wrestlers should be grabbing all the titles in promotions outside of WWE. When WWE buys those promotions, those titles are recognized by WWE. It is most likely the best way to be recognized as a champ without being railroaded by Vince or buried by HHH.

 

 

Yeah I agree to this.

 

Eventually TNA's rights will be purchased more than likely (via video rights) - they'll more likely be mentioned a lot if the wrestlers come into WWE again.

 

There's been rumors of WWE wanting broken matt hardy and offered him.

 

Anyways, Goldberg coming back to WWE!?! SAY WHAT!? What year is it!?!?!

Well to be fair last wrestlemania we had HBK, Stone Cold and Cactus Jack running around. I remember when The Wrestler was out they dragged out Superfly and Hot Rod.

Hell even last Wrestlemania Tatanka was out there wrestling.



I love Paul Heyman, best promos in the biz but even he can't sell me on Lesnar v Goldberg 2.
In fact I don't think I could be sold on either men regardless of their opponents.



ktay95 said:
I love Paul Heyman, best promos in the biz but even he can't sell me on Lesnar v Goldberg 2.
In fact I don't think I could be sold on either men regardless of their opponents.

I want to see it to see how awkward its going to be. Neither one is really technical and I doubt either one will be able to carry the other. I'm expecting chaos.



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BasilZero said:
bunchanumbers said:

Well to be fair last wrestlemania we had HBK, Stone Cold and Cactus Jack running around. I remember when The Wrestler was out they dragged out Superfly and Hot Rod.

Hell even last Wrestlemania Tatanka was out there wrestling.

 

Noooo


Another year long (almost) drawn out feud between pre-recorded footage ;(!!!!

 

Its gonna be another Rock vs Cena type of deal lol

 

Though rumors are stating that they are pitching the feud to have its match at the upcoming Survivor Series....which is next month.

I thought the Rock/Cena feud was well done. Rocks last reign as champ was pretty memorable. If Goldberg/Lesnar is anything like that, it will be a good match. Mind you I didn't pay attention to the buildup and was only there for the match itself. But still. I enjoyed the end product.



I really, REALLY don't want to see Lesnar vs Goldberg 2. I thought the first one was horrible, I think the 2nd one might be even worse!
Goldberg is 49 going on 50 (December), his last match was 12 years ago, so he'll likely be very rusty ans winded, and have to rely on Brock to carry the match. That's a problem, that is a HUGE problem, because Lesnar just doesn't give a damn anymore. He puts almost no effort into his matches, it's just 10-20 suplexes, an F-5, and that's it. His last 2 PPV matches at SummerSlam and WrestleMania were huge stinkers, the match with Dean Ambrose at WrestleMania was ESPECIALLY disappointing. That could've EASILY been the best match of the night with Brock's monster like aura and Dean being a crazy SOB pulling out every weapon in the book. I was so hyped to see that match and it was such a letdown it killed most of my excitement for the show. I have a very tough time seeing Goldberg vs. Lesnar 2 being anything BUT a huge disappointment. If it were up to me, I'd just give Goldberg a Hall of Fame induction and leave it at that; Meanwhile Brock would fight Roman or Samoa Joe or Kevin Owens, a big, heavy fighting guy who could be perceived as a legit threat to Brock.

Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe Brock and Goldberg will have an incredible, big fight match that is freaking awesome. But I see and have very little reason to believe this to be the case. I'm expecting this to be a huge waste of time on whichever card they're on.



Come on guys, it is a bit harsh to say that Lesnar is a lazy performer who doesn't give a fuck anymore nowadays. I agree with the fact that his match with Orton at Summerslam 2016 or his match with Ambrose at Wrestlemania XXXII weren't the best one's in his career but when Lesnar gets an opponent equal to his level he always gives his best to make it as good as possible. His feud with John Cena in 2014 was awesome, we got great matches at Summerslam 2014, Night of Champions 2014 and Royal Rumble 2015. At Wrestlemania 31 Lesnar had an amazing main event with Reigns. And at Summerslam 2015 and Hell in a Cell 2015 we got a fantastic Undertaker vs Lesnar feud. Since Lesnar arrived in 2012 he made the product look more real and I really appreciate that. Never seen a guy who made his opponent bleed by only using his own hands in WWE. Lesnar is also willing to injury himself because he wants to make it look like a real fight. He bleeded from his face in almost every 2015 match for fuck's sake!

I am really hyped for the Goldberg vs Lesnar rematch. Both guys know how bad their first match was at Wrestlemania 20, they will try to give their best and deliver an incredible brawl!



By any chance, does anyone here watch LittleKuriboh's "The Mark Remark" on YouTube?



ktay95 said:
Ganoncrotch said:
No option for the 2nd highest subscribed Wrestling Promotion on YouTube? What Culture Pro Wrestling (WCPW) bit strange considering the brand has featured Kurt Angle, Cody Rhodes , Aaron Stevens (Damian Sandow), Jay Lethal and a ton of other great talent (Local Hero Joe Hendry easily one of the best actors they have in the promotion on the mic)

But yeah if not WCPW then it would have to be WWE since they are the monopoly really on Western professional Wrestling for the majority of people.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAl6NLC0tnubiCMzYXawG3g

After 2 seconds of searching I found them in 5th not 2nd. And that was 2 seconds, I could have missed someone else bigger than them.

WCPW and WhatCulture Wrestling aren't the same channel and the WCPW channel is still smaller than WWE, TNA, NJPW and ROH's channels although it's not far off pushing past the latter 2.

Ah righto, Episodes 1-4 of WCPW Loaded were uploaded to What Culture Wrestling, it wasn't until that Brand started to really get traction in episode 5 that they moved the WCPW to it's own channel and onto their well named site https://wc.pw/ for their Extra accounts which includes early access to the videos and their IPPV event, the one featuring Cody and Kurt Angle so I wonder will they focus more on getting their viewers to use that site infuture rather than the youtube channels at all... if possible I bet they would rather it.

But yeah in terms of their growth keep in mind that it's on episode 11 now... but at the same time that WCPW only channel was started off from Episode 5 onwards, a fairly decent feat for new faces in the game of running a promotion but then again they've seen exactly how brands rise and fall so aren't really just some lads set up in a school gym.



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