For devs, not first party games. It's almost a guarantee at this point they will since they stated they intend to have games with those settings. I never said "4K for all games"... 

Because we know no console sells anything at a price higher than $449 and we know it's not an standard price even for high end systems. The reason the XONE was expensive was the Kinect, who was apparently it's own thing... 

In other words, I am thinking on a likely target. You're thinking an unlikely one because of your preferences. DON'T! 

You do know the difference in price between GPUs is negligible, yes? 

Wallow all you can, Scorpio superiority is undeniable. It's here to crush the competition... Of course, if you want to mention the release date advantage, go ahead. I am sure it won't last forever. 

Why are you on a thread about PS4Pro talking about Scorpio and antagonizing PlayStation fans?

Its looking like i'll get the Pro before Horizon Zero Dawn comes out. Nice!

I confirmed 4K games. I didn't confirm the pricing guess... 

I knew I didn't, but I had to correct someone who was going on deluded ramblings. I am no Sony fan, but I am hardly going to rain on your parade provided you don't rain on ours with lies. 

Then use Google and look around. You will find the odds it will be priced at $400 very likely. Of course, I say this going off the whole "only GPU is upgraded" claims. If they upgrade other parts of the system, the price will certainly go further, but we know it's going to be in the $400-$500 range... 

TL;DR Even if this were Sony HQ in Japan I'd still say this... 

LAY OFF OUR CONSOLE!

Hey, the plan was originally saying "you're wrong" to a comment I felt the need to correct. Not antagonizing people, but it seems the people here enjoy spreading misinformation around. 

What the hell happened to the internet and politeness? 

I never said all games will. I said it can and will have games at 4K. Of course, premium price has a lot of connotations, especially since we have no idea if the GPU will be new or even if the console will have similar specs. Depending on how they upgrade the thing, the price might go further, but it's as good as any guess given what we've seen before... 

1. Did you really reply to me twice?

2. No, you came in here to add fuel to someone else already antagonizing PlayStation fans.

Don't play innocent when literally all of the arguing started at you and Mafioso.

Yes, because there were two posts. And no, I didn't. Some of you claimed the Xbox One wouldn't have native 4K and I said yes it will, mentioned it has their own positives and it might not cost a lot. If saying this is adding fuel to something, then you seriously have issues accepting the world doesn't revolve around you and what you like. 

I didn't attack the PS4 Pro. I simply stated facts and an opinion, none of which are an attack. If this is a problem, sue me... I didn't start anything in the first place. If it's now acceptable to mess with the competition in a thread simply because your piece of plastic is more popular, then I can officially confirm mankind went down the shitter and is beyond saving... 

Flaw in your logic:

No one would be talking about Xbox if you and Mafioso didn't come in here to start shit.

Flaw in your logic... I came here to read an story and then saw the reply to Mafioso's comment. I am not helping the guy... 

You're not fooling anyone, you know.