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The_Yoda on 26 September 2016
JRPGfan said:
Peh said:

How would you know that you are not playing this game alone? Everyone else would be just a NPC. It's the same situation like in a dream. Everyone else is just a fabrication of your brain.

Because that line of thinking is scary, also theres no way to ever know one way or another.  Sociopaths think like that btw, nothing but them matter to them.

So you play it safe, and assume the others in this game, are like you a player, your bound to live a better life, with a more sane mind while doing so. Even if your wrong and everyone is just a NPC, at the end of it, I doubt you ll have regretted treating them like players. The same cant be said if you live the otherway, you might end up regretting that at the end.

Suppose it really is a "game" and your high score dictates where you go afterwards. You cant know until youve played the game to the end.

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The_Yoda on 26 September 2016
John2290 said:
The_Yoda said:

Check out the new TV show Better Place

You mean the Ted Danson sitcom? Good place?

Ah yes Good Place, my bad.  His Score thing reminded me of that show.



FromDK on 26 September 2016
SvennoJ said:

Depends, do you take care of all those simulated worlds you've played in? Where is Civilization and Minecraft heaven? Lost savegames on a HDD or memory card that is destined to fail.

I'm not talking about a game.. :) Thats one thing i'm almost sure its not..

Nobody know what reality is.. only thing we know for sure..

We only see a very small part of it (we can only see 0,0035% of the spektrum)

That means..IF we instead saw other parts.. (gamma rays, radio waves, x-rays, infrared, ultraviolet, microwaves, other.)  It could look like the matrix.



SkepticallyMinded on 26 September 2016

It's completely inconsequential since it's the only seeming interaction we have. This is the age old BIJ scenario that has plagued philosophers for eons.



mjk45 on 26 September 2016
CosmicSex said:
Well, my idea of a simulation would be one where a set list of parameters has been setup and a system simply executes the rules in order. Even NASA and CERN test are manifestations of those rules and parameters.
The problem is that in our universe, energy can not be lost or gained. So how would we be able to communicate with someone outside of the universe. The source of the simulation would also have to be a part of the simulation... which leads to some really mind bending concepts.

Fortunately for the small minded human race, there is also another theory:

So it turns out that if you add up all of the positive and negative energy in the universe, the total energy is 0.

According to this idea, there is no simulation because there is nothing. Our universe is nothing more than a different form of nothing. Its like saying 0 = 1-1. They mean the same thing but they look different. You don't need a creator, a computer or even advanced AI to create nothing.

If would mean that we wasted the last few millennia trying to find an answer to a question that doesn't exist. Typical humans lol! Almost as bad as 'why is the sun the perfect distance away for human life' question. It is absolutely irrelevant.

 shouldn't the question be why is the earth  the perfect distance away ,since the sun is in the centre. anyway to me the why question combined with the word perfect makes it seem like it's some kind of miracle but just the immense numbers of solar systems means it could be more common than we think ,and just like we are adapted to a particular enviroment there can be adaptions suited to non earth style planets .



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SvennoJ on 26 September 2016
John2290 said:

Well, I ask myself this question from time to time. "If I were to die a minute from now, would I have lived enough" and at 27, I find the answer always to be yes, I have regrets and sure I could do more but I've experienced more noval things than I could possibly care for, all I wanna do now is quiten down and ponder, maybe jump off some high places a few times. You seem to be doing the reverse of that? Experience now after thinking about it in your youth?

No not at all really. I enjoy having settled down after growing roots in a new place, and appreciate simply being where I am now. I used to travel a lot in holidays and between, experimented with drugs, drowned myself in work, partied until 11am etc. Nowadays I enjoy a daily routine a lot more than my younger self would ever have been able to put up with. Yet I also pay more attention to and really experience my surroundings, the passing of the seasons, changes in the landscape, and of course my kids growing up. Perhaps it's having kids that changes you or it's simply growing older.

Would I have lived enough? No, my kids still need me. Plus I promised my wife that I will outlive her. It's not that I'm more lazy nowadays, heck I cycled 127km yesterday to enjoy the weather and see the city outline of Toronto out over the crashing waves. I'm simply happy with where I am, while when I was young the grass was always greener on the other side.

In my youth I thought alot about more experiences, more places to see. It's not that I wouldn't enjoy them nowadays, it's that I don't really care about that anymore. Maybe we'll go travel again when the kids are older, they haven't seen anything yet.

Or in simulation terms, my neural network AI routines have reached a agreeable local maximum, my stochastic gradient has flattened out, for now. (Still a few more years before I get to midlife crisis age..)

So yes, quiet down, it's lovely.



Mr_No on 26 September 2016

Look for an exit so I can get to the source of the simulation. I'd question the bastard who keeps us all on this and why.

Sometimes I get the feeling that I'm a part of a simulation and some bastard is throwing crap on my way that I can't face.



SvennoJ on 26 September 2016
FromDK said:

I'm not talking about a game.. :) Thats one thing i'm almost sure its not..

Nobody know what reality is.. only thing we know for sure..

We only see a very small part of it (we can only see 0,0035% of the spektrum)

That means..IF we instead saw other parts.. (gamma rays, radio waves, x-rays, infrared, ultraviolet, microwaves, other.)  It could look like the matrix.

True, and we're on a tiny speck in a galaxy of 400 billion stars in a universe of a 100 to 200 billion galaxies. Interesting thought that it would be almost as unlikely for anyone running the simulation to find us as it is for us to find other intelligent life out there. How long does it take to visit all planets in NMS to check if Hello games has hidden something in there. Perhaps we should do a little dance next to blackholes, they might be observation windows :)

Yet the thought it could be like the Matrix is kinda more worrying than it all being a game.



mjk45 on 27 September 2016
John2290 said:
mjk45 said:

 shouldn't the question be why is the earth  the perfect distance away ,since the sun is in the centre. anyway to me the why question combined with the word perfect makes it seem like it's some kind of miracle but just the immense numbers of solar systems means it could be more common than we think ,and just like we are adapted to a particular enviroment there can be adaptions suited to non earth style planets .

You still haven't adressed the concept, you're just saying the universe is just a wall and we are the shit that stuck. What he stated is irrefutable. If nothingness doesn't exist then everything must exist, including nothing at all and nothing at all can't exist if there is even one point to contrast it, the point would be everything. Everything always equals nothing and vice versa. Probably a bad synapsis but the idea (purely a thought experiment) is a complete mind fuck. This doesn't apply to the physical universe either because we know their was an unequal ammount of matter (essentially energy), slightly more than anti matter after the big bang, the Antimatter being the one that lost. 

What do you call the space between atoms?



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mjk45 on 27 September 2016
John2290 said:
mjk45 said:

What do you call the space between atoms?

Er...enlighten me.

It was just a stray thought , coming from the notion that something is nothing until it's named .



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