You do realize ISIS is antithical to Saddam Hussein right? Hussein was a secularist, ISIS are religious apocalyptic fanatics, if Saddam Hussein was around, like him or not, he would've strung those guys up by their balls. 

As I said in another post more people die from bee stings in the US post-9/11 than from terrorist attacks, same goes for "regular" mass shootings. ISIS in actuality really has nothing centrally to do with the US. They are part of the Sunni-Shia conflict in the Middle East and that shit ain't ending any time soon (Catholics and Protestants took several hundreds years to get their shit together too before you get all indignant about it). 

I don't care who fucks who either. I hope Bill fucked Monica so hard up the ass that she hit Mariah Carey notes, Clinton was a president who balanced a budget and had common sense progressive social ideas. We would be lucky to have a president that good again. But we have to have this whole song and dance because America has a giant stuck up it's rear end about sex. I'm sure Trump has fucked his share of Eastern European "escorts" (seems to be his type).  

20% of Trump supporters believe ending slavery in America was a "bad idea": http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/

50% believe black people are inherently violent and 40% believe black people are "lazy": http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-race-idUSKCN0ZE2SW

67% dislike American Muslims and 87% agree with a Muslim ban: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/donald-trump-voters-dislike-american-muslims-219877

57% think American Muslims should be "under more scrutiny": http://www.people-press.org/2016/08/18/3-views-of-the-country-and-feelings-about-growing-diversity/

52% oppose marriage equality: http://www.people-press.org/2016/08/18/3-views-of-the-country-and-feelings-about-growing-diversity/

50% believe illegal immigrants are more likely to commit serious crimes: http://www.people-press.org/2016/08/25/on-immigration-policy-partisan-differences-but-also-some-common-ground/

I could go on. Like how Trump supporters are now punching old ladies in the face. 

What narrative is being "created"? When you see numbers like that and then look back at Hillary's statement.....was she wrong? They aren't "creating a narrative"; the narrative is creating itself by way of the type of people who support Trump.

I don't understand why people think she "insulted" anybody, and hard working people who are voting for Trump are now calling themselves "proud deplorables". Guess what, hard working people who want a better economy and to end ISIS: she wasn't talking about you. You're not a racist who believes black people are inherently more violent? You're not a homophobe who doesn't want two consenting adults to get married? You're not an Islamophobe who thinks Muslims should be on watch? Well that just means you're in the other half of supporters that she had nothing to say about. If you're a "proud deplorable", then you're proud that the above figures describe you. But if you're only a "proud deplorable" for political brownie points, then you're an idiot. Because you voluntarily group yourself with racists and bigots. 

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I hear ya, but both Saddam and ISIS needed/need to just disappear. The world is better that way.

Bill was president in much more simple times. I don't know how you make a balanced budget these days when much of the population votes for a free ride. Hilary was in danger of losing to a borderline commie. Bill managed to be considered progressive while giving the okay to DOMA, go figure!

Boy, I really doubt these polls are valid. But hey, believe what you want.

I don't support punching old ladies in the face. But dems have had their fair share of violence with riots the media ignores.

Bernie Sanders is more of a demographic shift ongoing in America, young people don't care about the "commie" scaring, Soviet Russia might as well have bene 100 years ago. 

I do think Sanders is really the only one that genuinely gives a shit about working class people though and college kids who are saddled with monstrous debt just trying to get an education. And if honesty is a big kicker, he is the most honest of any candidate probably in 20 years+. 

But income disparity is becoming more and more one-sided, and I can admit that as someone who comes from a wealthy family. Sanders didn't win the nomination this time, but in 4-8 years it wouldn't surprise me if a candidate in the same vein eventually wins. It's a populist middle class message. 

You only doubt the polls are "valid" because it paints a grim picture for a lot of Trump supporters. Funnily enough, those same polls have things like: "% of registered voters who say free trade agreements have been _____ for the U.S." with 58% of Clinton supporters saying it's been good, while 68% of Trump supporters say it's been bad. That seems valid, right? You could say that that's generally accurate, in describing each candidates supporters.

But when they turn around and ask those same participants about Muslims and black people, and Trump supporters start looking bad.....all of a sudden, the same poll, with the same methodology, asking the same participants is conveniently "not valid".

These are Pew and Ipsos polls, surveying anywhere from 2,000 to 16,000 people, btw (i.e. more than ample sample size). If we're just tossing surveys from credible sources because the results aren't favorable, then we can just toss out any poll, and there's no point in ever backing up anything with stats. 

Literally, the only definition provided so far as been a image put together by a 4chan poster. Wasn't aware that's what all was needed to make a definitive judgment about a group of people. Where has someone said that non-white, women, and gay people are below them?

It almost was 100 years ago IoI.

I agree. He is also the only one who wasn't running from promises of personal gain or ambition (although that nice new house he bought is bother me) But his solutions aren't all that great imo. Doesn't your system work like so: Get access to great education, get great education, get great job, pay us back. This is bullshit, but doesn't it work unless you are stupid or if you focus on crap like Philosophy, Gender Studies, Journalism and others?

That's what happens when you live in a Corporatist state, my dude.

It's more of a lower class populist message

Dems argue the cost of the wall. Therefore it makes sense to take advantage of cheaper labor. We already have millions in our country illegally, so we have locals to recruit for the job and that should be a path to citizenship.

The wall would would create jobs for Americans, but its not the only way to stimulate new jobs.