Soundwave said:
TheLastStarFighter said: No, XBOne level graphics aren't "good enough for Nintendo". Nintendo is considered the finest game maker on the planet, and in the past their titles like DKC or Zelda:OoT have pushed boundaries of what we thought was possible on a game system. The finest artists should be given the finest tools to work with. I think XBOne's graphics look lovely. I'ts a great system. But if NX is coming out 3-4 years later, and if it's on store shelves next to a product like XB Scorpio, NX at XBox One levels will seem like a dated product. Now, if NX is a handheld, XBOne levels would be extremely impressive. But if it's supposed to be competing in the home console space (as well?), it should have more power. And saying Nintendo won't get third party support would be a defeatist attitude for the company to take. Nintendo staff should be doing anything they can to court third party support. They owe it to their consumers, and they need it if they ever truly want to be leaders again in their industry. Personally, if I were running Nintendo I'd be targeting something in the ballpark of PS4 Pro, give or take, while working out a deal or two to lure a couple key 3rd party publishers support, if not purchasing them outright. That, in combination with some well executed 1st party titles and a few other unique hardware innovations would get the mass market's attention. |
While I can appreciate more hardware power as an enthusiast ... I also think we are reaching the point of first world problems for graphics enthusiasts, much like audiophiles who claim they can't enjoy any type of music below 2049994848 kbps or running through a $20,000 speaker system.
Like I mean this is the difference between XB1 and PC, and the PC probably has specs better than the PS4 Pro
Sure as hell isn't this:
I'll be honest too ... after getting a 4KTV (Samsung 65 KS8000, so it's a decent set) ... I don't think the "regular joe" is going to be blown away by 4K. It's a moderate improvement over HD especially when you're sitting like a normal person 6+ feet away from the TV.
HDR is probably a larger, more noticable difference, but that really doesn't cause a performance hit.
Not to say I wouldn't want better standards for Nintendo, but sometimes you have to be realistic too. A cola company is not going to show up and just make people forget Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Nintendo has allowed Sony and MS to solidify their position with certain large audience groups ("core" gamers if you want to simplify it really) for like decades now. Saying they would have a very, very, very uphill claim in getting those users back isn't a defeatist attitude at this point. It's simply a reality.
Nintendo is simply not needed by this industry to be to go to source for third party content, any more than say the smartphone market needs Blackberry or Windows Phone to add a third option to iOS and Android. People don't even want that because it's already a pain to choose between iOS/Android as is.
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Of course Nintendo isn't "needed" by the industry. But Nintendo needs to be in the industry, or it will fail as a company. How are Blackberry and Windows Phone doing today? I don't think Nintendo wants to follow them. But the flip side is, did the industry need Apple before it entered? Or Android? With all industries, it's a matter of competing. And an appealing product can turn the industry on its head in an instant. Just like the iPhone did. Just like the Wii did. Who would have thought Nintendo could achieve market dominance after the PS2 era?
The ultimate flaw of Wii was that it lacked the power needed for 3rd party support. It was a wonderful product with a mix of mature styling, new takes on classic games, the nostalgia-filled VC and a technicological marvel of an interface. But the innovative 3rd party products on other systems eventually drew customers away.
If NX comes to market with mind-blowing innovation, it should still have adequet power to please third parties. If it lacks both innovation and power, it will surely go the way of Blackberry.