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sethnintendo said:
zippy said:

 

I think Ubisoft will also give some support.

They already have Just Dance supposedly for launch title...  I'm sure they will support NX semi decently.  Ubisoft and Activision were pretty much last to jump ship on Wii U.  You can't fault them like EA which did half ass or late ports.

bigtakilla said:

I agree it would be nice, but c'mon, It's just not Nintendo to have something like that (at least out the gate). 

 

At best I see the SCD as a mid gen upgrade, and I'm fine with that. Anyone who thinks the NX is looking to launch with a dock station that has the extra cost of  added components to upgrade its power I'm pretty sure is gonna be disappointed 

Well then why is Just Dance a launch title?  I don't see why Just Dance would ever make it to hand held considering it is a home console game.

I'm  not saying there won't be a docking station, just not one with extra components at launch. But trust me, as a lover of the Xenoblade series, I'd love to be wrong. I'd love to see a fairly powerful console out the gate, but nothing Nintendo themselves or third parties have said make me think that. 



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A 3D Mario game with XB1 graphics would be simply amazing.



                
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AZWification said:

A 3D Mario game with XB1 graphics would be simply amazing.

It's sad we never really got to see what the Wii U could do. I mean, an open world Zelda game with the biggest Zelda map to date employing modern effects, it's quite obvious they only really scratched the surface of what Wii U games could do. 



Soundwave said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
No, XBOne level graphics aren't "good enough for Nintendo". Nintendo is considered the finest game maker on the planet, and in the past their titles like DKC or Zelda:OoT have pushed boundaries of what we thought was possible on a game system. The finest artists should be given the finest tools to work with.

I think XBOne's graphics look lovely. I'ts a great system. But if NX is coming out 3-4 years later, and if it's on store shelves next to a product like XB Scorpio, NX at XBox One levels will seem like a dated product.

Now, if NX is a handheld, XBOne levels would be extremely impressive. But if it's supposed to be competing in the home console space (as well?), it should have more power.

And saying Nintendo won't get third party support would be a defeatist attitude for the company to take. Nintendo staff should be doing anything they can to court third party support. They owe it to their consumers, and they need it if they ever truly want to be leaders again in their industry.

Personally, if I were running Nintendo I'd be targeting something in the ballpark of PS4 Pro, give or take, while working out a deal or two to lure a couple key 3rd party publishers support, if not purchasing them outright. That, in combination with some well executed 1st party titles and a few other unique hardware innovations would get the mass market's attention.

While I can appreciate more hardware power as an enthusiast ... I also think we are reaching the point of first world problems for graphics enthusiasts, much like audiophiles who claim they can't enjoy any type of music below 2049994848 kbps or running through a $20,000 speaker system. 

Like I mean this is the difference between XB1 and PC, and the PC probably has specs better than the PS4 Pro

Sure as hell isn't this:

 

 

I'll be honest too ... after getting a 4KTV (Samsung 65 KS8000, so it's a decent set) ... I don't think the "regular joe" is going to be blown away by 4K. It's a moderate improvement over HD especially when you're sitting like a normal person 6+ feet away from the TV. 

HDR is probably a larger, more noticable difference, but that really doesn't cause a performance hit. 

Not to say I wouldn't want better standards for Nintendo, but sometimes you have to be realistic too. A cola company is not going to show up and just make people forget Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Nintendo has allowed Sony and MS to solidify their position with certain large audience groups ("core" gamers if you want to simplify it really) for like decades now. Saying they would have a very, very, very uphill claim in getting those users back isn't a defeatist attitude at this point. It's simply a reality. 

Nintendo is simply not needed by this industry to be to go to source for third party content, any more than say the smartphone market needs Blackberry or Windows Phone to add a third option to iOS and Android. People don't even want that because it's already a pain to choose between iOS/Android as is. 

Of course Nintendo isn't "needed" by the industry.  But Nintendo needs to be in the industry, or it will fail as a company.  How are Blackberry and Windows Phone doing today?  I don't think Nintendo wants to follow them.  But the flip side is, did the industry need Apple before it entered?  Or Android?  With all industries, it's a matter of competing.  And an appealing product can turn the industry on its head in an instant.  Just like the iPhone did.  Just like the Wii did.  Who would have thought Nintendo could achieve market dominance after the PS2 era?

The ultimate flaw of Wii was that it lacked the power needed for 3rd party support.  It was a wonderful product with a mix of mature styling, new takes on classic games, the nostalgia-filled VC and a technicological marvel of an interface.  But the innovative 3rd party products on other systems eventually drew customers away.

If NX comes to market with mind-blowing innovation, it should still have adequet power to please third parties.  If it lacks both innovation and power, it will surely go the way of Blackberry.



bigtakilla said:

I'm  not saying there won't be a docking station, just not one with extra components at launch. But trust me, as a lover of the Xenoblade series, I'd love to be wrong. I'd love to see a fairly powerful console out the gate, but nothing Nintendo themselves or third parties have said make me think that. 

Ah okay I get what you are saying now.  So you think the docking station won't have much to it or provide any power boosts besides maybe resolution?



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sethnintendo said:
bigtakilla said:

I'm  not saying there won't be a docking station, just not one with extra components at launch. But trust me, as a lover of the Xenoblade series, I'd love to be wrong. I'd love to see a fairly powerful console out the gate, but nothing Nintendo themselves or third parties have said make me think that. 

Ah okay I get what you are saying now.  So you think the docking station won't have much to it or provide any power boosts besides maybe resolution?

Yes, but I do think we could see a brick that attaches to the dock station down the line (like 32X or Sega CD) which if they plan ahead, could boost the visuals of all games when it comes out.



bigtakilla said:

Yes, but I do think we could see a brick that attaches to the dock station down the line (like 32X or Sega CD) which if they plan ahead, could boost the visuals of all games when it comes out.

Uh oh now you got me worried! lol...  Well I guess we will find out sooner or later.  My mind is pretty much drained from speculation. 



sethnintendo said:
bigtakilla said:

Yes, but I do think we could see a brick that attaches to the dock station down the line (like 32X or Sega CD) which if they plan ahead, could boost the visuals of all games when it comes out.

Uh oh now you got me worried! lol...  Well I guess we will find out sooner or later.  My mind is pretty much drained from speculation. 

I think in essence those were great ideas implemented poorly. Personally, I prefer the cost effective method of getting a cheaply priced add on that adds power to a system over having to buy two consoles every gen.



bigtakilla said:
sethnintendo said:

Uh oh now you got me worried! lol...  Well I guess we will find out sooner or later.  My mind is pretty much drained from speculation. 

I think in essence those were great ideas implemented poorly. Personally, I prefer the cost effective method of getting a cheaply priced add on that adds power to a system over having to buy two consoles every gen.

One that doesn't get much flak would be the N64 expansion pak.  It was only used for a few games though.  It would have been nice if the pak enchanced the graphics of all games that came out after its release but it only worked with a few.  Actually, after looking at the list on wiki it worked with more than I thought.



Would be nice if they have at least that much power

Depends on what the NX actually is though



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