I don't even know what you're talking about anymore.  If you can make your point clear and concise I might understand it.  Genuinely don't know what you're asking anymore.  Things got messy when you started confusing things other posters said with what I said.  

Anyway,  Sony ain't rolling over.  Come the end of next year they'll have ~75 million ps4's on the market and they'll be earning massive profits from their Playstation division.  I wouldn't call that rolling over and dying. I'd call that the company that's exciting the mass market the most.  

This... Then there's Microsoft going full on Hollywood on everyone... 

You're counting the NX and Scorpio out? 

Well, you can if you want I guess.

Yes it was a bad (aka: not exciting) event. I think a lot of people agree on that. But franckly, their goal was to announce the Pro before it comes out not to hype it and because Microsoft announced the Scorpio thing before that. How could you expect anything else.

I do not think anyone was expecting any new game announcement like that out of the blue in september too.

The event did the job for that but was really boring yah :)

Despite your last claim which I at least in part disagree with, the NX reveal has a solid chance at not being buried by hype, which was all until yesterday was one ofthe biggest concerns I had with NX reveal. 

But in all honesty, the only entertainment even PS4's E3 provides are its games, which is all it needs so it works. Beyond that Xbone and PS4's E3s are pretty boring too. If NX comes with the games and a entertaining way to present it, it could actually bury the PS 4 Pro hype (not necessarily saying it will sell better, but people will be paying attention to it).