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Nem said:
pokoko said:

 

No Man's Sky™

A science-fiction game set in an infinite procedurally generated universe

PS4

Release Date: Out Now

Genre: Action Sandbox

Publisher: Hello Games

Developer: Hello Games

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/no-mans-sky-ps4/

I don't believe for a second that an indie developer has the capability to produce millions of physical copies. Even if thats what it says there is no way that is true in practical terms. You saying Sony paid for the advertisement and manufactoring and ain't getting anything? I don't buy it. Theres something fishy in this story. Probably related to the ownership of the IP.

Where did I say that?  Go find it.  Sony is certainly getting paid for manufacturing and distribution--and, of course, they make more money on royalties when more copies are sold.  A deal with advertising and being a timed exclusive was likely signed early on.  

Hello Games owns the IP for NMS, which costs the same amount on PC.

If you want to blame Sony that badly then shouldn't you bring something even slightly concrete?



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A 6/10 from IGN? Wow, that's savage.
Thanks for posting Berry, and don't worry about the thread, remember that here in VGChartz is not allowed to shoot at the messenger.

If people don't like it, it's not your problem. Keep up with the work.



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CGI-Quality said:
Pavolink said:

A 6/10 from IGN? Wow, that's savage.
Thanks for posting Berry, and don't worry about the thread, remember that here in VGChartz is not allowed to shoot at the messenger.

If people don't like it, it's not your problem. Keep up with the work.

One can certainly have an issue with the messenger if said individual posts something offensive or misleading. Fortunately, that's not the case here, but I figured I'd clear up that little misconception.

Good. Now that we have this confirmation, and as you said there's nothing offensive in this thread, we can move now. Yes, I know I'm pretty lttp, but oh well.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


BraLoD said:
oniyide said:

whats logical is not charging 60 bucks for a game that shouldnt cost near that much

Can you tell me why it should not be charged 60 bucks?
It's definitely bigger than a lot of stuff that goes well with being charged 60 bucks.

What is logical it to review a game solely based on it and not on external factors. Like giving them an easy 10 because it was a small team that accomplished something, or giving it a 2 because it was heavily marketed and was short, or giving it a 6 because you wanted something the game never aimed at and then is obviously not pushing, or giving it a 10 when the games is filled with technical problems, or give it a 10 because it comes from a famous brand, etc.

Price, marketing or brand should not even come close to be a factor to a game review.

if its big and there is nothing to do or you have to do the same things over and over again, whats the point? If being big is the only thing the game has going for it, thats a problem...for me at least. If thats your thing, have at it.

Price def should be a factor because for most people it IS a factor. So why not talk about it?



Came in expecting a 4/10. Clickbait and they will come. Seriously people; make up your own minds instead of putting too much stock into "Professional Reviews ". If your tight on cash, listen to the word of mouth in your local area to help you decide. If you still regret your purchase, then you can trade it back in.



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pokoko said:
Nem said:

I don't believe for a second that an indie developer has the capability to produce millions of physical copies. Even if thats what it says there is no way that is true in practical terms. You saying Sony paid for the advertisement and manufactoring and ain't getting anything? I don't buy it. Theres something fishy in this story. Probably related to the ownership of the IP.

Where did I say that?  Go find it.  Sony is certainly getting paid for manufacturing and distribution--and, of course, they make more money on royalties when more copies are sold.  A deal with advertising and being a timed exclusive was likely signed early on.  

Hello Games owns the IP for NMS, which costs the same amount on PC.

If you want to blame Sony that badly then shouldn't you bring something even slightly concrete?

That is what the publisher does. They are doing the job of a publisher but aren't credited for it.

So, i don't know. You go find out why they did it, but i'm sure its related to the IP ownership. The fact that they aren't credited in the box just doesn't change my rationale at all.

If you think this game would be 60 if Sony wasn't involved i would laugh, sorry to say.



Angelus said:
Mike_L said:

1: Yes, that's the definition of feeding on the hype.

2: "If the reviews agree with my opinion, they're right"

Except we all know 2 is an over simplification people like to use when they wanna argue a certain point of view. In truth, certain things simply are right, because they're objectively, and factually correct. The contents of this review, are correct. The game is riddled with technical issues. That's a fact. The game doesn't offer a whole wealth of unique content on it's near limitless planets. That's a fact. You will need to do a lot of tedious, boring mineral collecting to keep going. Even the people who are enjoying the game are acknowledging this as a fact. The combat is simplistic and shallow. Not disputed by anyone. The main draw of the game is to just keep keeping on and seeing what new crazy weird alien designs and planets you might find. Also fact.

Now we can argue score. Scores are completely subjective and tell you very little about whether a game might appeal to you. But the actual meat of a well written review, while framed by experience and personal preferences, contains a great deal of information that is simply right.

Can't argue with that as I haven't played the game.

The only thing I know is that I have 3 PSN friends playing this game and enjoying it. I'll put their words over those of some Nintendo fans that haven't played the game (no offense). That's for sure. Of course the game should be punished (and it is) for its tecnical issues but still many people are enjoying it and it runs fine on PS4 (for my friends at least) 



RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

The thing is, the OP has three anti-NMS threads in the last few days.  If that's something that's going to continue with more threads, where they're trying to push their opinion with quantity rather than quality, then I really think it brings the forums down to a lower level.

Does that mean you've changed your mind? It wasn't too long ago that you ridiculed the suggestion that certain members should get their thread creation rights restricted.

Changed my mind?  Do you see where I said anything about moderation in this thread?

Nem said:
pokoko said:

Where did I say that?  Go find it.  Sony is certainly getting paid for manufacturing and distribution--and, of course, they make more money on royalties when more copies are sold.  A deal with advertising and being a timed exclusive was likely signed early on.  

Hello Games owns the IP for NMS, which costs the same amount on PC.

If you want to blame Sony that badly then shouldn't you bring something even slightly concrete?

That is what beeing the publisher does. They are doing the job of a publisher but aren't credited for it.

So, i don't know. You go find out why they did it, but i'm sure its related to the IP ownership. The fact that they aren't credited in the box just change my rationale at all.

If you think this game would be 60 if Sony wasn't involved i would laugh, sorry to say.

No, that is not what a publisher does, that is what a distributor does.

What are you saying?  That Sony is the super-secret hidden publisher for some reason?  That they secretly own the IP?  Your rationale doesn't even make sense, considering that Sony has published other games that retailed for less than $60.  



Mike_L said:
Angelus said:

Except we all know 2 is an over simplification people like to use when they wanna argue a certain point of view. In truth, certain things simply are right, because they're objectively, and factually correct. The contents of this review, are correct. The game is riddled with technical issues. That's a fact. The game doesn't offer a whole wealth of unique content on it's near limitless planets. That's a fact. You will need to do a lot of tedious, boring mineral collecting to keep going. Even the people who are enjoying the game are acknowledging this as a fact. The combat is simplistic and shallow. Not disputed by anyone. The main draw of the game is to just keep keeping on and seeing what new crazy weird alien designs and planets you might find. Also fact.

Now we can argue score. Scores are completely subjective and tell you very little about whether a game might appeal to you. But the actual meat of a well written review, while framed by experience and personal preferences, contains a great deal of information that is simply right.

Can't argue with that as I haven't played the game.

The only thing I know is that I have 3 PSN friends playing this game and enjoying it. I'll put their words over those of some Nintendo fans that haven't played the game (no offense). That's for sure. Of course the game should be punished (and it is) for its tecnical issues but still many people are enjoying it and it runs fine on PS4 (for my friends at least) 

There's no problem with people liking the game. If you like something you like it, good for you. A critical, objective look at a game's quality isn't going to change your mind on what you like and don't like, nor is that it's purpose. The purpose is to inform the larger consumer base, looking for input on a potential investment, what exactly they can expect to get for their money. Not everyone scavenges the internet for every bit of pre-release news on a game to know everything it might entail, not every game ships with all its promises delivered upon, not every game runs smoothly on one's choice platform (it's nice NMS is running well for your friends, I saw another user here stating it's crashed his PS4 like 50 times), etc etc. Point being, whether one enjoys a game or not for what it is, there is certain critical information consumers thankfully deserve to have, which can be objectively measured as positive or negative, regardless of ones overall opinion of "well this is really quite good quality wise, but I just don't like it," and/or "well there's a lot wrong here but I just can't get enough anyway."



sony involves in many parts of NMS for example marketing and distribution
please do more research about what happen to NMS getting megaton amount of hype and marketing at e3
because of what?

answer = sony