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Soundwave on 13 August 2016
Darc Requiem said:
Soundwave said:

Nintendo is not the CIA, the CIA actually leaks more, lol. Kidding aside all Nintendo has to say is please don't discuss our supply deals until we formally unveil our device first.

It's just a common business courtesy. Nintendo clearly has NDAs on all things NX related. AMD breaches this protocol because they are desperate as their business is in the shitter and they need something to placate their stockholders. Nvidia is in no such position.

I'm not saying whether or not Nintendo is using Nvidia or ATI but your rationale is flawed. Stockholders aren't random forum posters. They are investors who have put their money into a company. Their is an legal obligation to notify them of company activities. They don't have to know specifcs but it does have to be truthful information.

Nvidia's SoC business is the lowest it's been in years. If they had an upcoming project they'd be required to disclose the projected revenue to stockholders. An NDA would prevent them from telling who specifically that revenue would come from. On the flipside, we know AMD provided the GPU for both the Wii and Wii U. They know detailed specifications of both GPUs. Yet we still don't know the specifics because of an NDA. Too imply that AMD breaches their NDA's is ludicrous.

It is a bit unprofessional IMO, Nintendo makes deals with like 20 different suppliers for any given game console, imagine every one of them blabbing that they've gotten a game contract win. 

There's only three companies making consoles so it's not terribly difficult to guess who, it's like hooking up with a girl but the girl saying be discreet, don't talk about it and the next day you go and blab that you hooked up with one of three girls without giving a specific name. That girl is probably still going to be pissed off at you, lol. 

Also if Nvidia says this, then you know what the very next question is going to be? "Is it Nintendo? There are reports it's Nintendo". You're better off just not opening that pandora's box. 

For Nvidia getting the contract is good enough. They don't need to talk about it before Nintendo is ready to talk about it. 

Also the reports are Nvidia did have a deal with Nintendo for the 3DS in the past which fell apart in the very late stages. They're probably sensitive about that happening again (though for the 3DS it was probably other reasons that caused it, still they are probably very careful). 



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JEMC on 13 August 2016
FunFan said:
JEMC said:

We're all making assumptions, and you are like the rest of us.

For example, you are talking about Nintendo as if they were like the CIA or something like that, not allowing AMD or Nvidia talk about their machines, when that's not how it works. The reason Nvidia hasn't said anything about their Tegra X2 chip powering a new console is actually rather simple: they won't talk about design wins for a product that they still haven't officially unveiled.

It's you that said that Nvidia won't unveil the chip until the Hot Chips conference, so don't expect anything from them or Nintendo (who in turn won't talk about a console powered by a processor from another company that still hasn't revealed it either).

Bussiness 101: Either It works however the contract sais it works or it will work like the court sais it does. Secrecy is not illegal.

So what you're saying is that Nintendo can forbid AMD or Nvidia to talk about their business plans even if that doesn't translate into revealing the NX? AMD can't say that they are working on a new chip design? Or Nvidia?

Discretion is one thing, a complete blackout is another.



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Game_God on 13 August 2016
Miyamotoo said:
Game_God said:

Where do you see that these articles are based of Yahoo article of May???

Because they are all basically same infos based on that Yahoo speculation from May, that from some reason internet sites started to bring that Yahoo speculation just now.

You can easily see that news on both those cities are clear speculation without any confirmation or real source.

Ooooh, I see! So All these articles are not basically the same info based on that Yahoo speculation from May. Internet sites did not start to bring that Yahoo info just now./s

According to your logic, you can easily see that I'm right because I say so, & there is nothing backing your opinion!



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Jumpin on 13 August 2016
Game_God said:

Contrary to recent rumours, AMD slooks to be in the starting to provide the inner silicon for Nintendo NX according to this article that flew under the radar 3 weeks ago:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3989164-amd-windows-opportunity-open

Another site seems to confirm it, check the article from 2 days ago:

http://knowtechie.com/amd-polaris-rising-star-flop/

The AMD custom design wins were for PS Neo, Xbox One S, and Scorpio. Not NX.

Also, Eurogamer's sources have all but confirmed it is using the Nvidia Tegra X1. Not to mention Emily Rogers also specified that AMD was not providing the chips.

There is literally nothing to suggest AMD has anything to do with the NX.



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Game_God on 13 August 2016
Jumpin said:
Game_God said:

Contrary to recent rumours, AMD slooks to be in the starting to provide the inner silicon for Nintendo NX according to this article that flew under the radar 3 weeks ago:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3989164-amd-windows-opportunity-open

Another site seems to confirm it, check the article from 2 days ago:

http://knowtechie.com/amd-polaris-rising-star-flop/

The AMD custom design wins were for PS Neo, Xbox One S, and Scorpio. Not NX.

Also, Eurogamer's sources have all but confirmed it is using the Nvidia Tegra X1. Not to mention Emily Rogers also specified that AMD was not providing the chips.

There is literally nothing to suggest AMD has anything to do with the NX.

Says who???



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craighopkins on 13 August 2016
Jumpin said:
Game_God said:

Contrary to recent rumours, AMD slooks to be in the starting to provide the inner silicon for Nintendo NX according to this article that flew under the radar 3 weeks ago:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3989164-amd-windows-opportunity-open

Another site seems to confirm it, check the article from 2 days ago:

http://knowtechie.com/amd-polaris-rising-star-flop/

The AMD custom design wins were for PS Neo, Xbox One S, and Scorpio. Not NX.

Also, Eurogamer's sources have all but confirmed it is using the Nvidia Tegra X1. Not to mention Emily Rogers also specified that AMD was not providing the chips.

There is literally nothing to suggest AMD has anything to do with the NX.

You may be right but you forgot that AMD has also announced a ARM custom win along with the X86 wins. Not saying its NX, but its a maybe.



Pemalite on 14 August 2016
Soundwave said:

It is a bit unprofessional IMO, Nintendo makes deals with like 20 different suppliers for any given game console, imagine every one of them blabbing that they've gotten a game contract win.

A supplier who makes the ROM chips for game carts for Nintendo said they were expecting increases in profits thanks to winning a contract with a console manufacturer. (And they only make Carts for Nintendo.)

It actually happens more often than you think.
And in-fact it's actually normal procedure for many companies to disclose potential up-ticks in revenue/profits so they can attract more investors and shareholders.

Soundwave said:

There's only three companies making consoles so it's not terribly difficult to guess who, it's like hooking up with a girl but the girl saying be discreet, don't talk about it and the next day you go and blab that you hooked up with one of three girls without giving a specific name. That girl is probably still going to be pissed off at you, lol.


The thing is though, the news Article about the AMD design wins was released before the Xbox One S.

As you know the Xbox One S has a revised chip.
So it could be Xbox One S, Neo and Scorpio and not about Nintendo at all, this is being blown out of proportion.




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Miyamotoo on 14 August 2016
Game_God said:
Miyamotoo said:

Because they are all basically same infos based on that Yahoo speculation from May, that from some reason internet sites started to bring that Yahoo speculation just now.

You can easily see that news on both those cities are clear speculation without any confirmation or real source.

Ooooh, I see! So All these articles are not basically the same info based on that Yahoo speculation from May. Internet sites did not start to bring that Yahoo info just now./s

According to your logic, you can easily see that I'm right because I say so, & there is nothing backing your opinion!

Clear fact is that cites just now beginning to bring that Yahoo speculation from May and that numerous cites now included now that infos now without any source or some kind of confirmation.

On other hand we have Eurogamer article from two weeks ago that saying NX using Nvidia and infos that Eurogamer wrote are confirmed buy Wall Street Journal, IGN, Kotaku and MWC, also SemiAccurate and Digitimes also stated that NX using Nvidia, and it was also confirmed buy some leakers.



bunchanumbers on 14 August 2016
Miyamotoo said:
Game_God said:

Ooooh, I see! So All these articles are not basically the same info based on that Yahoo speculation from May. Internet sites did not start to bring that Yahoo info just now./s

According to your logic, you can easily see that I'm right because I say so, & there is nothing backing your opinion!

Clear fact is that cites just now beginning to bring that Yahoo speculation from May and that numerous cites now included now that infos now without any source or some kind of confirmation.

On other hand we have Eurogamer article from two weeks ago that saying NX using Nvidia and infos that Eurogamer wrote are confirmed buy Wall Street Journal, IGN, Kotaku and MWC, also SemiAccurate and Digitimes also stated that NX using Nvidia, and it was also confirmed buy some leakers.

Didn't Eurogamer also confirm that 3DS was going to go with Nvidia too? That didn't pan out.



Miyamotoo on 14 August 2016
bunchanumbers said:
Miyamotoo said:

Clear fact is that cites just now beginning to bring that Yahoo speculation from May and that numerous cites now included now that infos now without any source or some kind of confirmation.

On other hand we have Eurogamer article from two weeks ago that saying NX using Nvidia and infos that Eurogamer wrote are confirmed buy Wall Street Journal, IGN, Kotaku and MWC, also SemiAccurate and Digitimes also stated that NX using Nvidia, and it was also confirmed buy some leakers.

Didn't Eurogamer also confirm that 3DS was going to go with Nvidia too? That didn't pan out.

And 3DS was really using Nvidia chips in early development but Nintendo ditch them because we're too power hungry if I am informed well, now we have Eurogamer article just 7 months before NX launch and infos from that article were confirmed by several very reliable sites like WSJ and IGN, also buy Kotaku, MWC, SemiAccurate and Digitimes.