SpokenTruth said:
GodOfPeace3 said: I'm more worried about Hillary becoming president than I am Trump. Just read all those e-mail leaks, they've already fired 4 people at the DNC for the things they said in e-mails. Hillary rigged the DNC elections to screw over Bernie Sanders and there's proof of it in those leaked e-mails. Hillary is the anti-christ. Trump is just an idiot. |
Consider the implications of either as president to America and the rest of the world.
Did Hillary lie and is she a criminal? Almost assuredly so. But how does that damage the US and the rest of the world?
We either put a criminal in the White House or someone that will damage social and foreign relations for decades. We aren't voting on who deserves to be elected. We are voting on the best interests of the people...all people. And one of them will casue far more damage than the other.
Cleaning up an economic mess is whole lot easier than cleaning up a nuclear mess.
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There are many posts that I should reply to, but I really don't need to. "Trump = nuclear war". You have no arguments. If you honestly believe voting Trump means electing a dictator, crushing the entire political force of both sides and the voice of the people, then you're insane.
Have people ALREADY forgotten all the things Obama was denied? President =/= Dictator. Its not that difficult to understand. The president gets shut down all the time. Especially if he wanted to use fucking nukes.
"I'm going to have to assume you don't read or listen to any of his detractors at all."
Are you kidding me? NO ONE is on Trump's side. I never hear anyone support him in public. "isnt that proof alone?" Fuck no. Who donates the most money to Hillary? Fucking media giants! Guess who they'll support! Even my local newspaper, here in tiny Sweden, slanders Trump. You have to shout loud and clear that you hate Trump, because otherwise someone might think that you actually DON'T hate him! And that would be tragic, right? So, how do they slander him? By calling him a bigot, a misogynist, a racist, a dumb idiot(yes, literally "Dumb idiot") and so on. Based on what? Absolutely fucking NOTHING. I've read so much about Trump and I don't even care about him.
You do the same thing that they do. "I don't have to explain, its so obvious that he's EVIL". No, its not obvious at all. What did he do, and what are you comparing him to? Certainly not other politicians, thats for sure. Trump said some mean words? Who cares. Trump flipflopped on issue x? Oh woe is me, no politican has ever done that. Remember how both Obama and Hillary took a strong stance AGAINST gay marriage, back in the days? Every rally, every political speech (regardless of the speaker) is tailored to an audience. Its designed to convince voters. Is this news to you? Politicans lie to get your votes. Look at what they DO, read their policies, see what they accomplish.
"Did Hillary lie and is she a criminal? Almost assuredly so. But how does that damage the US and the rest of the world?" Really? Reeeaaalllyyyy?
*siiiiiiiiigh*
Yes, your options are limited. Yes, they both suck. But how about you argue facts, instead of slander? Calling her a criminal is, well, technically false, because she got away with her disgusting, criminal behaviour. But we can still talk about that behaviour, and how it absolutely can affect the US and the world. Calling Trump a warmongering nukethrowing misogynist, or any other nice -ist word, is slander. Pointing out that Hillary tried to make Bill's rape victims disappear, well. Please point it out, since no one even cares. How are people so eager to forgive Hillary for anything and everything, just because Trump *for some reason* is the devil incarnate? I really don't understand it. Are some of Trumps plans garbage? (Is Hillary a divine Goddess? Spoiler alert, NO) Critize those plans. Let him know that those plans are bad, and why they're bad. Remember that he has a team behind him to realize those plans. Look at what those plans actually entail, and not just what he said once in a loud speech. Trump knows nothing about foregin politics? Ridiculous, is what I'd answer. But still, he's not a dictator, he will have tons of advisors and experts around him all the time, just like any other president. Those emails where Hillary talks about starting war in foreign countries, those are real. She might know a lot about forerign politics, that doesn't mean she'll do good things.
SethNintendo said this: "I am not the all wise knowing of economics but the things he says about economics makes it sound like he studied from the voodoo economics playbook."
Good thing then that no president in the history of all presidents ever, had to know EVERYTHING, and had to take EVERY SINGLE DECISION on their own. I'm just assuming you're right here, but I'm no expert on economy either. Regardless, I'm not jealous of your situation. Hillary basically embodies the establishment, I don't trust her with economics either.
Please, vote whatever you want. Like I said, I don't have a horse in this race. I'm just so god damn tired of all the shit thrown at Trump for no reason other than its the hip new thing to hate on Trump. He might very well be a terrible President, I don't know. The thing is, you don't know either. Base your arguments on facts, not on emotions.