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zorg1000 said:
thismeintiel said:

 also seriously doubt many 3rd parties are going to make ports for such an underpowered device. 

I would say its more important for Nintendo to converge the support of 3DS & Wii U into a single device than to get ports of PS4/XBO games.

Full support of Nintendo+strong Japanese support+strong indie support+strong family friendly support is likely what such a device will have, mainstream western titles are probably just a bonus for them.

And how did that work out for the Wii U?  You see what's great about strong 3rd party support is it fills out any droughts caused by 1st/2nd party delays or cancellations.  This is why Wii U had so many months go by without a lot of good games.  This only leads to lack of interest from core gamers, which leads to low sales.  No console that lacks strong 3rd party support has gone on to be a huge success.  Even the Wii got thrown quite a few bones, due to the amount of casuals gaming on it.  Unfortunately, a lot of that was shovelware because devs/pubs knew it was mostly casuals on the system, but it was still some form of support.  A lack of support, as well as the competitors putting out more appealing HW, is really what lead to the N64, Gamecube, and Wii U performing so poorly against its rivals.



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thismeintiel said:
zorg1000 said:

I would say its more important for Nintendo to converge the support of 3DS & Wii U into a single device than to get ports of PS4/XBO games.

Full support of Nintendo+strong Japanese support+strong indie support+strong family friendly support is likely what such a device will have, mainstream western titles are probably just a bonus for them.

And how did that work out for the Wii U?  You see what's great about strong 3rd party support is it fills out any droughts caused by 1st/2nd party delays or cancellations.  This is why Wii U had so many months go by without a lot of good games.  This only leads to lack of interest from core gamers, which leads to low sales.  No console that lacks strong 3rd party support has gone on to be a huge success.  Even the Wii got thrown quite a few bones, due to the amount of casuals gaming on it.  Unfortunately, a lot of that was shovelware because devs/pubs knew it was mostly casuals on the system, but it was still some form of support.  A lack of support, as well as the competitors putting out more appealing HW, is really what lead to the N64, Gamecube, and Wii U performing so poorly against its rivals.

Wii U never got good Japanese support ever. 

The NX may already have better Japanese support by virtue of Dragon Quest XI alone. 

This system with this form factor could do very well in Japan, probably be the no.1 system there. 



zero129 said:
leo-j said:

And this is what may kill console gaming, and is going to kill nx out of the gate 

Post of the thread. People seem to think Android and Ios gaming only effects handhelds lol...

Nintendo can continue to scale their tech with new mobile chips too. 

A Tegra X2/Parker level chip is not something that's going to be inside a phone anytime soon, it would melt an iPhone casing in 30-45 minutes. 



This is A LOT better specs than expected for a Nintendo handheld tbh. They usually release their handhelds with slightly less raw power than the home console 2 gens back but comes with more modern effects (GBA SP to SNES, 3ds to GC) so a handheld with 1 Teraflop (tegra X1) of computing power is really impressive since it actually approaches current gen console raw power. But this isn't all that surprising considering that mobile technology has increased so rapidly recently. 32 GB cartridges are plenty since they are not going for 3rd party multiplats with PS4/XBO. I doubt this will get the big multiplats from PS4/XB1/PC since it isnt x86, has a smaller game size and is weaker than Xbox one


I like the idea. I don't think it will sell like crazy due to shrinking handheld market, unfortunately, but it looks like it will make for a cool handheld and secondary console and it might have decent sales on this premise. The biggest problem I had with the last 3 Nintendo consoles were that they didn't get enough game releases to stand on their own. it is ridiculous when you can only justify buying a game console if you all ready have another game console (or gaming PC) so you don't get droughts. I had PS3 and Wii, but as I got older I couldn't justify buying Wii U just for a few games I want to play when I already had a PS4. Wii U and Wii felt like a paywall to access Nintendo games since the hardware offered absolutely nothing I wanted (and hampered game experiences like wiimote). the "paywall" thing goes away as NX will be undoubtedly the best way to play games on the go (mobile games are shit and I doubt Sony or MS will make a handheld in the future). The hardware has it merits now! and now I get Nintendo's console games with it as well.

So to someone like me who is a Nintendo fan but didn't like the direction of their last few home console, this is looking really good! just based on the rumor of course. I know most people on forums want a Nintendo console with a lot of power and gets all the 3rd party support like a PS4. But that has become more and more unrealistic as it increasingly obvious Nintendo would not be able to compete with Sony and MS directly in this regard after so many generations of terrible 3rd party relations/support as well as hardware and online infrastructure ineptitude. honestly if this is $200 then it is the best thing Nintendo could of done imo



zero129 said:
Soundwave said:

Nintendo can continue to scale their tech with new mobile chips too. 

A Tegra X2/Parker level chip is not something that's going to be inside a phone anytime soon, it would melt an iPhone casing in 30-45 minutes. 

I know this dude dont worry. Pretty much the way i see it Nintendo is the first console maker to join this ever growing market and they already have a solid Handheld base to grow off now they can tap into the Tablet Market.

I just dont know what MS or Sony is going to do to counter such a move, well i guess MS has their Windows 10 thing. But what has Sony got to move forword into this market?.

I guess Sony better Hope consoles will never die and that they will always have a place in it.

PlaySttaion would become a service if consoles become obsolete, but even if they do I don't think PlayStation consoles will be obsolete anytime soon. Its a brand that many people associate with gaming and many people who are mnot even that interested in consoles still buy a PlayStation, such as PC gamers like myself.

But I don't think consoles will become obsolete, they are doing well and software sales are also doing well on consoles. They are an alternative to PC gaming and I see both growing as people who play on phones realise the lack of depth and poor gameplay in phone games. Its already happening around me.



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I am so torn about this.. I really really like the concept, I think it is really really cool. Shared library is fantastic and so on. Low power though.. assuming it's 1Tflop it's about three times stronger than the Wii U an tons stronger than the 3DS. That's still enough for me to get it day one.

Though, I wish it was more powerful, and some things that makes me question this: I dont understand why they would have detachable controllers on the console itself? I am going to guess you wont be using them while using the handheld so why not on the dockingstation instead? It's been stated that it's a brand new concept and it isnt, might be a bit refined but still not a brand new concept, the article might not tell the full story about the concept though. And lastly, they have stated that it is a home console and while this "is" it's more of a handheld.

I will probably like it the more I read about it but if this is all true, I kind of wish that the dockingstation provides more power somehow.



It should have a dock for TV Play with additional RAM/Power/SecretSauce.

This could also allow BC.



thismeintiel said:
zorg1000 said:

I would say its more important for Nintendo to converge the support of 3DS & Wii U into a single device than to get ports of PS4/XBO games.

Full support of Nintendo+strong Japanese support+strong indie support+strong family friendly support is likely what such a device will have, mainstream western titles are probably just a bonus for them.

And how did that work out for the Wii U?  You see what's great about strong 3rd party support is it fills out any droughts caused by 1st/2nd party delays or cancellations.  This is why Wii U had so many months go by without a lot of good games.  This only leads to lack of interest from core gamers, which leads to low sales.  No console that lacks strong 3rd party support has gone on to be a huge success.  Even the Wii got thrown quite a few bones, due to the amount of casuals gaming on it.  Unfortunately, a lot of that was shovelware because devs/pubs knew it was mostly casuals on the system, but it was still some form of support.  A lack of support, as well as the competitors putting out more appealing HW, is really what lead to the N64, Gamecube, and Wii U performing so poorly against its rivals.

How did having the combined support of 3DS & Wii U work out for Wii U? I hope you realize how your post makes no sense in response to what I said.



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Merging console and handheld is a good business decision. The hardware idea is nice. I'm sure they'll sell at a profit out of the gate.

But I have to wonder how this will impact actual games and third parties. Won't this hand-tie them when making games? Why cartridge based? I mean, really, why? Because it keeps hardware costs lower without any internal storage? Won't that ultimately make the cartridges more expensive? And instead of downloading multiple games to the device, you have to swap cartridges. Are we still living in the 90's?

This is a definite risk by Nintendo. But they've never really cared about third party support anyway. We'll see how it all plays out....



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dreamcast210 said:
Merging console and handheld is a good business decision. The hardware idea is nice. I'm sure they'll sell at a profit out of the gate.

But I have to wonder how this will impact actual games and third parties. Won't this hand-tie them when making games? Why cartridge based? I mean, really, why? Because it keeps hardware costs lower without any internal storage? Won't that ultimately make the cartridges more expensive? And instead of downloading multiple games to the device, you have to swap cartridges. Are we still living in the 90's?

This is a definite risk by Nintendo. But they've never really cared about third party support anyway. We'll see how it all plays out....

well if its a handheld than how will they release physical media with anything other than cartridges? a handheld that plays disks doesnt seem very practical.

And i dont see having cartridges affecting 3rd party support considering that 3DS uses them and has significantly better support than Wii U which uses disks.



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