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Could Nintendo make more money by having their software everywhere?

Yes 171 42.86%
 
No 188 47.12%
 
I have no idea. 40 10.03%
 
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Soundwave said:
Miyamotoo said:

Pokemon Go is so popular because concept of game that suits perfectly to mobile platforms, you will hardly achieve something like that on mobile platforms with Mario Kart. Animal Crossing could also suit great to mobile platforms, but IPs like Zelda, Mario Kart, Mario, Donkey Kong, Smash Bros, Splatoon...not merely because you can only have real and full exparanice on dedicated gaming platform for those games.

Pokemon Go will effect that Nintenodo push a little more their mobile effort, they will definitely not abonde dedicated gaming platform only because Pokemon Go success, Like I wrote, nothing will change alredy good strategie they made, like I wrote, point is that Nintendo can have they dedicated hardware platform and strong mobile presence in same time, with Amiibos, toys, themed parks, movies...and thats best way to go and that exatly Nintendo is doing. 

Nintendo is multi billion company with long history, they will definitely not change their strategy so easy just because current success of one mobile game. Pokemon Go is maybe current goldmine, but what will be in year, two, 5 years from now, if will still be gold mine, why would they close itself possibilities of choices and opportunities for hardware and console gaming just because current success of one mobile game when they dedicated platform still make profit even when they have basically the worst generation. And Nintendo is company that like to have possibilities and full control, they will definitely not become only software company, they expanding their business to toys, mobile games, themed parks, movies...they want to be more like Disney or Apple, they definitely not aiming to be just onother 3rd party.

 

Actually racing games as a genre are pretty huge on iOS/Android ... Real Racing 3 I think someone was saying has 300 million downloads, Angry Birds Go has well over 100 million downloads, which is more than every Mario Kart game combined has sold. 

Mario Kart would be big. 

Even Zelda I think could work on iOS/Android, Nintendo already did (basically) touch only Zeldas on the DS and they worked well enough. If the Final Fantasy games do very good business on mobile, I think Zelda would too. 

Those races are mostly motion controls racers. Angry Birds mobile game in its core. You really comparing downloadables of those free or $1 games with sales of $60 game!?

Get real, you cant have nearly same experience of 3D Zelda BotW on big TV with physical controls compared to mobile platform.

And we already know Nintendo said they will make specific games for mobile platform, not ports of their games for their dedicated platforms.

 

Nintendo not leving hardware market, its so obvious.



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jardesonbarbosa said:
Is it? What about the money they make from hardware? And do you all seriously think they would release the same quality content if they were making games to play everywhere? The reason they are so good is because they are committed to only one (or two) devices. And they make those games to sell those devices. If they don't have devices to sell, they will only produce crap like the new Metroid or the new Paper Mario.

The flaw in your thought is that you're assuming those people don't want a console.  Most homes have a console of some type.  So most Pokemon Go consumers are perfectly OK with spending a few hundred bucks on a console, and they're OK with $70 games.  What Nintendo needs to do is get people to choose the Nintendo console as their home box of choice.  Pokemon Go can't do this alone, of course, but it could very much be used to increase the value of a Nintendo system.  Nintendo needs to have a decent machine that can offer generally the same experience as XBox and Playstation.  Then use their software to attract consumers.  If a husband and wife are buying a system and both allow him to play COD, but only one offeres "Pokemon Home" where she can do something really awsome with those Pokemon she collects in the wild, the Nintendo option becomes superior.  Add in additional, excellent titles like Zelda and there's no reason Nintendo couldn't have a thriving casual business on mobile and thriving core business on their proprietary hardware.



Miyamotoo said:
oniyide said:

You sure about NX? cause Ubi seems to be giving it Just Dance and thats just about it. And remember those games actually have to sell. Something that didnt happen in the brief moment that Wii U was getting 3rd party support. I hope the NX is a better situation.

One game. That really only does well in Japan. Wow!

Of Course I am sure, Wii U doesn't have 3rd party at all, NX will definitely have some. Its all still under strict NDA, only Ubi somehow unannounced one game till now and Nintendo also unlaced only one game till now.

Actually we have several Monster Hunter 3DS games, and of course it not only one 3rd party IP, there are more but MH is far strongest.

But how do YOU know? Did 3rd parties come and tell you themselves. They could easily ignore it just like they did with Wii U. Hell especially since they already have 3 viable platforms they release games on.

What are these other series that do well? 



TheLastStarFighter said:
jardesonbarbosa said:
Is it? What about the money they make from hardware? And do you all seriously think they would release the same quality content if they were making games to play everywhere? The reason they are so good is because they are committed to only one (or two) devices. And they make those games to sell those devices. If they don't have devices to sell, they will only produce crap like the new Metroid or the new Paper Mario.

The flaw in your thought is that you're assuming those people don't want a console.  Most homes have a console of some type.  So most Pokemon Go consumers are perfectly OK with spending a few hundred bucks on a console, and they're OK with $70 games.  What Nintendo needs to do is get people to choose the Nintendo console as their home box of choice.  Pokemon Go can't do this alone, of course, but it could very much be used to increase the value of a Nintendo system.  Nintendo needs to have a decent machine that can offer generally the same experience as XBox and Playstation.  Then use their software to attract consumers.  If a husband and wife are buying a system and both allow him to play COD, but only one offeres "Pokemon Home" where she can do something really awsome with those Pokemon she collects in the wild, the Nintendo option becomes superior.  Add in additional, excellent titles like Zelda and there's no reason Nintendo couldn't have a thriving casual business on mobile and thriving core business on their proprietary hardware.

If that is the case why hasnt Ninty systems been doing much better recently? PokemonGo is a free app on a device that damn near everybody has, I kind of find it hard to believe that most those people will buy a 100 plus machine and 40-70 more dollars to get an experience they already have for free. We'll find out this fall i guess



Cloudman said:
oniyide said:

Sales wise you can add N64 and GC to that list, although i liked both systems personally and owned them at some point. What do you think its more likely that they make another Wii like success or they dont? Looking at the past couple of console generations im going with not. I hope i am wrong for there sakes.

If thats really the case what happened with GC and Wii U?

Sales wise they didn't do so well, but does that make them bad consoles? Absolutely not. N64 and GC were really great consoles with excellent games. They just didn't sell great is all. Honest now, the only bad consoles I can think now from Ninten is just the Virtual Boy and the E Card Reader. Those were just bad devices that didn't work well and were just not fun.

Finding another success like the Wii is not going to be easy, but there is always that chance that they could, so there is that.

The Wii U is easy to answer. It was an idea that just didn't work and the general audience didn't like it, or even knew it existed. As for the GC, not sure why that did poorly. I guess people vastly prefered the PS2 over the GC.

By that logic there are no such things as bad or good consoles, cause if we arent talking sales everything else is subjective. Hell I dont even think WIi U is really bad personally. 

True but what is the likely hood? chance could mean 15% and IMHO thats not a good chance.

Oh people knew they didnt care. And yeah PS2 couldnt be beat.



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They may make more money in the short term, but it would not be wise for long term as the ability to release on tailor made consoles is what benefits the overall quality of their games.

Nintendo's best policy for long term results is what they appear to be pursuing today, limited releases on other platforms, such as Pokemon Go, while releasing the majority of their content on their own hardware.

Nintendo's wisest decision is to pursue a more Retro style of gaming in their content

Their recent showing of LoZ BoW (which focused on the massive open ended world to explore, one with lots of action, along the lines of LoZ 1 ) and the announcement of the Classic NES are good decisions in that direction, we will need to see if they continue in that direction (if they do, NX could be bigger than the original Wii)



oniyide said:
Miyamotoo said:

Of Course I am sure, Wii U doesn't have 3rd party at all, NX will definitely have some. Its all still under strict NDA, only Ubi somehow unannounced one game till now and Nintendo also unlaced only one game till now.

Actually we have several Monster Hunter 3DS games, and of course it not only one 3rd party IP, there are more but MH is far strongest.

But how do YOU know? Did 3rd parties come and tell you themselves. They could easily ignore it just like they did with Wii U. Hell especially since they already have 3 viable platforms they release games on.

What are these other series that do well? 

Because I know after Wii U Nintendo will work harder in order to have better 3rd party, NX will have similar architecture and power to XB1/PS4 that alone means easy and fast ports, and finally NX will se better than Wii U that means more attractive platform for 3rd party. Wii U actualy solid 3rd party at launch, 3rd party abondend Wii U after terible sales in 1st year.

Yokay Watch, Lego games also have solid sales..



oniyide said:
Cloudman said:

Sales wise they didn't do so well, but does that make them bad consoles? Absolutely not. N64 and GC were really great consoles with excellent games. They just didn't sell great is all. Honest now, the only bad consoles I can think now from Ninten is just the Virtual Boy and the E Card Reader. Those were just bad devices that didn't work well and were just not fun.

Finding another success like the Wii is not going to be easy, but there is always that chance that they could, so there is that.

The Wii U is easy to answer. It was an idea that just didn't work and the general audience didn't like it, or even knew it existed. As for the GC, not sure why that did poorly. I guess people vastly prefered the PS2 over the GC.

By that logic there are no such things as bad or good consoles, cause if we arent talking sales everything else is subjective. Hell I dont even think WIi U is really bad personally. 

True but what is the likely hood? chance could mean 15% and IMHO thats not a good chance.

Oh people knew they didnt care. And yeah PS2 couldnt be beat.

I think people overall can agree the Virtual Boy is a bad console. It hurt your eyes and probably your neck, and was just overall hard to play. I don't know if anyone can have fun playing that...

The chance is probably less than that, but it's always possible. Though I don't think it has to be successful like the wii. As long as it is fairly successful, like better than the N64 or GC.



 

              

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