| TheBlackNaruto said: I will say this though these companies needs some type of work around where those of us who have bought these games before would not have to buy them again when we upgrade to teh next gen systems(like youw ith twisted Metal) you should just be able ot bring them all over and download them no thave to purchase them again....that part is crazy. |
Doesnt MS do it already with X1 ?
KingofTrolls said:
Doesnt MS do it already with X1 ? |
I have no clue lol that's what made me say it.
The absence of evidence is NOT the evidence of absence...
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Pemalite said:
The RX isn't the only GPU that exists on the market. I am also seeing the 4Gb version sell for $220 Euro's?
1) That's a big assumption. Would you like me to link you to all of my games so you can take a look around? Stuff it. Here they are anyway. |
Yeah but the Neo will have at least 8GB ram used for everything. And we know for a fact that the Neo will run games at least in 1080p 60fps as it is at least twice more powerfull and some rumoes suggest it could end up being more than 4TF.
Plus console oprimisation.
I think the Neo will be a better value if you want to upgrade espacially since you can resell your older console and it will have a 4K blue ray player built into it as well.
1. I was talking about your Steam libabry and just like i assumed you dont have any 8 Gen games on it. Again you tried making it up like you can buy brand new 8 Gen games on steam for penies, but most of these games are all last generation games. And like i said you can do the same on console by buying used PS3 and 360 games.
2. In Australia the situation maybe is different but here in the Eurozone its reversed, the Bioshock collection is cheaper than buying them all from steam. Regardless PS3 and 360 version still should be cheaper than both alternatives.
| Ruler said: 2. In Australia the situation maybe is different but here in the Eurozone its reversed, the Bioshock collection is cheaper than buying them all from steam. Regardless PS3 and 360 version still should be cheaper than both alternatives. |
Geez, are you blind? I gave you a link where you could buy the whole BioShock trilogy for 12 €.
Full Steam keys, so no problems with the free upgrade to the remastered versions.
You can also buy it here for 16 GBP: https://uk.gamesplanet.com/game/bioshock-triple-pack-steam-key--1155-7?ref=itad
Or here for 20 €. https://de.gamesplanet.com/game/bioshock-triple-pack-steam-key--1155-7?ref=itad
Lowest recorded price for the PC-trilogy was less than 8 €: https://isthereanydeal.com/#/page:game/info?plain=bioshocktriplepack
| Ruler said: Yeah but the Neo will have at least 8GB ram used for everything. And we know for a fact that the Neo will run games at least in 1080p 60fps as it is at least twice more powerfull and some rumoes suggest it could end up being more than 4TF. Plus console oprimisation. I think the Neo will be a better value if you want to upgrade espacially since you can resell your older console and it will have a 4K blue ray player built into it as well. 1. I was talking about your Steam libabry and just like i assumed you dont have any 8 Gen games on it. Again you tried making it up like you can buy brand new 8 Gen games on steam for penies, but most of these games are all last generation games. And like i said you can do the same on console by buying used PS3 and 360 games. 2. In Australia the situation maybe is different but here in the Eurozone its reversed, the Bioshock collection is cheaper than buying them all from steam. Regardless PS3 and 360 version still should be cheaper than both alternatives. |
1) 8Gb of Ram for everything. Several Gigabytes will be reserved for the OS, kinda' eats into that 8Gb before you even start running games, doesn't it?
2) Teraflops isn't a denominator for gauging performance. It doesn't matter if it was 10 Teraflops. - A 1 Teraflop GPU can be faster than a 2 Teraflop GPU.
3) The console is held back by an anemic CPU and has pretty average amounts of memory bandwidth, you won't be gaming at 4k in AAA titles, if 4k gaming is what interests you, then PC is where it will be at for this entire generation at least.
4) PC's have had 4K Blu Ray for years. Chances are if you bought a decent PC last generation, it is still perfectly fine this generation with just a GPU upgrade.
5) I have 8th gen games on it. Take a closer look. Maybe you are only looking for console multiplats? It's not like there are a ton of big AAA Gen 8 games yet that interest me, Even on console. But to say I don't have any is a far stretch of your imagination.
6) "Australia might be different". - That's your argument? Many people have proven before me that it's the exact same situation even in the Eurozone.
Fact of the matter is... For every retailer a console has that sells games, the PC has half a dozen more. That's competition that drives prices down.
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| barneystinson69 said: For a 2TB HDD with a 4k blu-ray player? Of course its a far better value! Give me a PC with similar specs to the XB1 for the same price (including the blu-ray player and 2TB HDD, I'll let you skip out on OS though), and I'll pay you a lot of money if you can find it. Good luck! |
It's used, so it's utterly unfair, but I just helped buy a pallet of used Lenovo S20s for our interns at the law firm.
Hex Core Twelve-Thread Xeon 2.93ghz, 12Gb DDR3, really solid PSUs, and Quadro 600s, with Windows 7 Pro licenses for $140/ea. Free upgrade to a fresh install of W10 legally through the end of July.
Add a 2TB HDD, $48.99 (amazon.com)
Add an MS branded Xbox controller (windows edition) $26.99 (amazon.com)
Add an Nvidia 750ti FTW Edition (easily plays games beyond X1 level in virtually all cases, and often above PS4 settings in games like BF4/Battlefront) $126.99
(amazon.com)
Add a Bluray Drive (reads Bluray and DVD/CD, burns DVD/CDs) $43.99 (amazon.com)
Add a Logitech wireless KB/M combo $14.95 (amazon.com)
$401.91, combo it with a $10 kbm (literally cheapest combos out there on a few sites) and you've hit the ~$400 range with a licensed OS.
Now it IS used, but this is our second round of these things, and they've all been super tough. After about 70 of them, zero PSU/mobo/system failures. We've put 240GB SSDs in them because almost no data is stored locally at the firm, everything is on NAS and cloud shares. But for gaming they're surprisingly stout once you punt the stock Quadro card to the curb. They even have 8+6pin PCIe cables! Also really cool is that PC is now the best place to play Blurays, with Leawo player playing a movie DIRECTLY with no logos/ads/warnings/BS wasting your time. Just put the disc in, run the app, and you better have your popcorn ready because that movie is ON.
To make this fair, you would have to wait until 4K bluray drives are affordable, and compare used Xbox to these prices regardless of the fact that most of the stuff in the S20 would be new after going this route. But the fact remains a ~3ghz Hex Xeon with 12GB and a 750ti FTW edition (overclocked generously past the 750ti that is known to hit PS4 settings) is a system that will handily outperform or meet X1 performance in virtually all titles.
Obviously store-bought systems and all new, I would certainly agree that the XB1S, hell even the regular XB1, is a better value for most people than a PC.
I'd rather have a lesser PC than even an XB1 Scorpio or PS4 Neo if I had to only have one or the other though. I like controllers for fighting, sports, racing, and platformers. I absolutely loathe using it for FPS, and can only vaguely tolerate it for TPS.
That's the thing though, different strokes for different folks/etc. All points of view are equally valid, and I'll never pretend that my way is right for anyone else besides me. When's the last time you saw anyone on the internet actually change their mind about ANYthing? LOL :D
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