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Should Britain stay or leave?

Stay! 185 48.43%
 
Leave! 197 51.57%
 
Total:382
Soleron on 24 June 2016
LurkerJ said:
Soleron said:

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Wow. You are one the smartest people I've run across on VGC. I am always interested in reading your posts, I think you've been around since I started lurking the forums 6 years ago. 

I am shocked you voted leave..... and Kowen voted remain. 

Don't feel bad though, your anger is justified, I know what it feels like being a part of a neglected portion of the society.

Thanks. I haven't posted much in the last 2 years.

Yeah, it was a feelings based vote. The obvious logical decision was Remain. I don't think I was alone - I don't believe 52% of the country is racist.



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AnthonyW86 on 24 June 2016

So where is that market collapse that project fear warned us about? Britisch Pond is already recovering and all i see is this:

London -3%
Frankfurt -8%
Paris -8%
Milan -12%
Madrid -12%

Looks like Brexit is hurting other markets more than Britain itself.



Carl on 24 June 2016

Happy that we're out of the EU.



                            

LurkerJ on 24 June 2016
Soleron said:
LurkerJ said:

Wow. You are one the smartest people I've run across on VGC. I am always interested in reading your posts, I think you've been around since I started lurking the forums 6 years ago. 

I am shocked you voted leave..... and Kowen voted remain. 

Don't feel bad though, your anger is justified, I know what it feels like being a part of a neglected portion of the society.

Thanks. I haven't posted much in the last 2 years.

Yeah, it was a feelings based vote. The obvious logical decision was Remain. I don't think I was alone - I don't believe 52% of the country is racist.

It's ok, I am not calling leave voters racists or stupid. People have their reasons, I hope the outcome isn't as gloomy as it looks right now.



Chazore on 24 June 2016
AnthonyW86 said:
So where is that market collapse that project fear warned us about? Britisch Pond is already recovering and all i see is this:

London -3%
Frankfurt -8%
Paris -8%
Milan -12%
Madrid -12%

Looks like Brexit is hurting other markets more than Britain itself.

Also something I noticed about a month ago, I work at M&S for my second job and my store manager sat most of us down per day (not enough space in a small room for a 1 hr meeting) to talk about changes being made to our pension/bonus schemes as well as general payment. The interesting thing that was noted in that meeting was that all other UK retail outlets were all making the same changes, all of them changing their bonuses (taking them away of course), but at the same time increasing general pay for what appears to be a 2 year change.

I remember somewhere hearing about a few months back that if the UK were to leave the EU, we were going to apparently suffer at least 2 years if not a bit more worth of ends to meet and generally not having a great time, this must be why the UK retail market saw this coming and decided to adjust all at the same time to prepare for something like this. Just something I thought would be related, it might not be though.



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Peh on 24 June 2016
AnthonyW86 said:
So where is that market collapse that project fear warned us about? Britisch Pond is already recovering and all i see is this:

London -3%
Frankfurt -8%
Paris -8%
Milan -12%
Madrid -12%

Looks like Brexit is hurting other markets more than Britain itself.

That was just a panic reaction. Wait until UK will be actually out of the EU.



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Dallinor on 24 June 2016
Soleron said:

So, I voted Leave and regret it.

It's going to sound stupid, but I am OK with free trade, open borders and all of that. I just wanted the banks, political parties and media elite to feel some of the economic pain my area is experiencing (I live in the rural North, no one has ever cared about us, the GDP/stock market going up has never caused actual jobs to be advertised or actual wages to rise here).

Yikes.

If I'm not mistaken The North/NorthEast had the highest level of EU funding in Britain after Wales. 



 

Soleron on 24 June 2016
Dallinor said:
Soleron said:

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Yikes.

If I'm not mistaken The North/NorthEast had the highest level of EU funding in Britain after Wales. 

My region was one of the lowest, and even then it's all spent in the big cities. My county is extremely rural and takes about half an hour to travel 10 miles - if there even is a road. I've never seen evidence of an EU project in the towns I frequent.

I live on an A-road between two of the major cities in my area, and the bus service to either city is once per hour on weekdays only, stopping before 6pm.



Dallinor on 24 June 2016
Wyrdness said:
Soundwave said:

EU should force them out immediately. It'd be hilarious. 

I'm from the UK and sadly that's the only way they'd learn, EU should press them to leave asap, it would also bring most of the leave mob back to reality.

http://www.news24.com/World/News/breaking-eu-chiefs-say-britain-must-leave-as-soon-as-possible-20160624

Once they invoke article 50 they have up to 2 years to re-negotiate a deal. Europe wants to get them out fast though because theyre going to rock the EU's markets as uncertainity looms.



 

lionpetercarmoo on 24 June 2016
Soundwave said:
Symbolic said:

Are you proposing that voting rights should be limited based on age, projected life span or length of intention to live within that country? Would this only apply to referendums, or also to general elections where one segment of a particular politician's platform could have an impact after that particular voter is no longer living in the UK?

Secondly, how would you handle legislation and government programs that were enacted long before many current voters were even born? Should they be exempt from the programs, or should they just have to deal with the decisions of their predecessors? An example of this would be the United Kingdom joining the European Economic Community in 1973; anyone born in 1953 or later didn't get to vote in the 1970 general election that elected PM Edward Heath and thus didn't have a say on whether or not the UK should have joined the EEC, yet all of them have had to live with that decision.

How do you possibly know that everyone who voted to leave voted based on "hate and blind patriotism"? Could people not have simply reasoned and came to a different conclusion than you?

Secondly, what do you even define as "hate"? Does wanting to implement an immigration system akin to Australia's point system count as "hate"? Does building a fence and policing your borders like Hungary count as "hate"? Does merely being critical of the European Union's or some of its member states' views on immigration and identity count as "hate"?

I'm just point out the flaw in it. Even the whole "the working class voted" ... well the vast majority of the working class is under 65 years old, so in that case this isn't what they voted for at all

OMG 1652 PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY COUNTS FOR EVERRRYYYBODY IN THE UK.