REDZONE said:
Spot on.People making excuses about this team not be great,hahaha.This team was hell of a lot more talented than the Maradona's world cup team.
And yes mind was made up he will never be the greatest with no world cups,which is the pinnacle of football.It's funny how some people say Pele never left Brazil(he was not allowed to,he is a national treasure)yet everything Messi did was in one league with one team.
I said it before I will say it again,he is a choker along with his teammates,third final running.Now he goes and quit,while his team is struggling to qualify for the world cup.Yup what a great.
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He is a great player. One of the best. But it isn't on the top of the list. No world cups, can't be the greatest of all-time, specially because the guys considered for that position have one or more.
However, I recognize that Argentina suffers a similar (albeit in a waaaay lighter manner) problem than Brazil. Outdated teams with outdated tactics. They have historically a huge opposition against hiring foreign coachs (more in Brazil), but right now that's what they need.
I also don't think he is retired. Is more a bit of frustration and the heat of the loss. He will play the next cup.
LurkerJ said: Just proves how silly the logic is, if Argentina won the penalties, Messi would've somehow became a better player than he already is. And why are you guys now saying the debate is just now settled? Your minds were made up before the finale anyway. Glad he is retired, the Portuguese journalism were never as harsh with CR like the Argentinians are with Messi. They treat him with respect despite the lack of trophies. Now Messi can be among a team and a crowd that appreciate what he's done for them. 10 years a star, shining bright and still more to give, you can't really say that about any other player. |
I don't think that a Copa América would do much for him. He is questioned by lacking a World Cup on his résumé. That's it. Ronaldo also gets a free pass because Portugal has less tradition. Argentina won 2 WC and their team is one of the most respected worldwide. However, they don't do it since 1986. Messi was the next Maradona that was suposed to bring Argentina back to the top and he is falling way short of this. It's a superb team, a great generation leaded by the best player in the world and they simply can't win the cup.
As a brazilian, I can understand why the argentinian are so harsh with them. We won't get particularly happy with a Copa América. It's World Cup or nothing. We had the 1986 national team, regarded as the best ever, and a lot of those players were harshly questioned because they didn't won the cup, even if they were absolutely superb players.
Ronaldo lead a team that doesn't have this responsibility because they never won a WC. If he does, he will be a national hero, of course, but that isn't an obligation. He also has a way weaker team to work with so people.