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WolfpackN64 on 17 June 2016

That's very arrogant.

If the Scorpio is more powerful, games will at least look a little bit better.
It's too late for Sony to go back to the drawing board now unless they want to give the Scorpio a serious head start.



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Lawlight on 17 June 2016
zero129 said:
dreamcast210 said:
I read through these posts, and except for 1 or 2 comments, I think everyone is missing the point. The hardware doesn't matter anymore.

Currently, the "Xbox Play Anywhere" game option is limited to first party games. But if Microsoft is able to convince third parties that this option is to their benefit and they begin offering it, the game is over. Hardware install bases are done and irrelevant because there is nothing Sony can do to combat the total number of Xbox One and S models sold, even prior to Scorpio. Why? Because all of the sudden, the PC has because a larger part of the Xbox install base.

If you can't beat them at their game, find a new way to play the game. That's what Microsoft is doing and if done properly, there's little Sony can do to combat it. Their best hope is to pump out high quality first party exclusives to keep their console relevant.

Sony will follow MS and release their own online Store for PC and Tablet/Mobile devices.

I know this is a hard pill for many to swallow but its whats coming trust me.

Nopes. Same way Sony isn't letting go of generations, Sony isn't going to follow in MS's footsteps.



Lawlight on 17 June 2016
zero129 said:
Lawlight said:

Nopes. Same way Sony isn't letting go of generations, Sony isn't going to follow in MS's footsteps.

Except Sony is letting go of generations or what else do you think PS4Neo is??.

A new PS4 model that will play the same games as the regular PS4? If you want games at 1080p and 60fps you can buy the Neo.



jigokutamago on 17 June 2016

This console we know practically nothing about is better than this other console we know practically nothing about.



Swordmasterman on 17 June 2016
zero129 said:
Lawlight said:

Nopes. Same way Sony isn't letting go of generations, Sony isn't going to follow in MS's footsteps.

Except Sony is letting go of generations or what else do you think PS4Neo is??.

1Stopforgamers said that the Neo is just a variation of the PS4 Slim and that Sony will eventually release a PS5, Andrew said that the releasing of the Neo does not mean the end of Console generation or that they will never release the PS5.

If the Neo releases this year, I see no problem of the PS5 releasing in 2018, because Neo is just a more expensive PS4 that will play PS4 games and people who purchase it now know it.

If Microsoft release the Xbox Scorpio they will have no choise other than skipping the Xbox One (original) in order to  have the Third Party support.

This "Get rid of generations" is a Silly thing because the Company who try to make it first will be left behind  because the other 2 will not let this happen, Microsoft's commitment to support every system isn't enought to ensure 3 Party support for the Xbox One (This thing "No one is left Behind") if Nintendo and Sony still releasing their next gen consoles, the Xbox One's install base would be meaningless and the thing of "Generation without barrier" only work if you have the weaker version in mind, you can Upscale put a lot of extra on the Scorpio version but you cannot downscale a game  for the Xbox One if you have the Scorpio in mind, it would end like Call of Duty Black Ops 3 or Metal Gear Solid V Phantom Pain's last generation versions.

 

Why developers would support the Xbox One,which would have less sales because would not have Generations,  Developers would not support a Xbox One with low sales (Because the Scorpio is aimed to the Hardcore market so it will be very expensive), instead of Sony or Nintendo's systems.

In the end this "End of generation" is just a Console fully backwards with another name but from a different generation, So this is what people are wanting ? just a  100% backwards console ?.



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malistix1985 on 17 June 2016
Random_Matt said:
Neo will hopefully run 1080p/60FPS. Scorpio at best will do 4K/30FPS if it's native, which is extremely unlikely. Most likely be upscaled 4K, trying to convince non-pc gamers is difficult, 6 TF is nothing. I would prefer the Neo if it does what i desire.

Isn't the 1080GTX 8Tfps or something, I'm pretty sure 6TF is currently like the best AMD card on the market, its really fast for a single gpu, a GPU with 4.5 times the power of the Xbox One GPU IS really fast, obviously the scorpio will deliver a great performance, the real question is the price.....

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Ruler on 17 June 2016
zero129 said:
dreamcast210 said:
I read through these posts, and except for 1 or 2 comments, I think everyone is missing the point. The hardware doesn't matter anymore.

Currently, the "Xbox Play Anywhere" game option is limited to first party games. But if Microsoft is able to convince third parties that this option is to their benefit and they begin offering it, the game is over. Hardware install bases are done and irrelevant because there is nothing Sony can do to combat the total number of Xbox One and S models sold, even prior to Scorpio. Why? Because all of the sudden, the PC has because a larger part of the Xbox install base.

If you can't beat them at their game, find a new way to play the game. That's what Microsoft is doing and if done properly, there's little Sony can do to combat it. Their best hope is to pump out high quality first party exclusives to keep their console relevant.

Sony will follow MS and release their own online Store for PC and Tablet/Mobile devices.

I know this is a hard pill for many to swallow but its whats coming trust me.

Just like Apple released their OSX or iOS store on PC or Android



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Solid-Stark on 17 June 2016

I think both Neo and Scorpio are aiming for the same idea. And we can't forget what Spencer and House have said about the consoles.

Scorpio is part of the XOne family, and Spencer said Scorpio won't do anything for you unless you have a 4K TV. Strongly hinting that the console will only render at a higher internal resolution and 60fps, all else staying the same.

House said the Neo would be an upgraded PS4 and still part of the PS4 family, and it would run games should the developers decide to support. Specifically, all games run on PS4 with the option of supporting the Neo. Suggesting similar to my conjecture of the Scorpio.



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thismeintiel on 17 June 2016
Qwark said:
Do we even have official specs for the NEO?

Nope. Just rumors now.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Sony upclock the RX 480 (what we assume the Neo is using) back to it's normal clock to get 5.5 Tflops out of it.  Sure, the Scorpio may still be the better GPU (though it's possible it's just an over clocked RX 480), but considering neither console will have exclusive games for it (Sony will still have PS4 exclusives for both its systems), that extra power will mean very little.  Well, except for fanboys bragging about power, even while the PS4 family still outsells the XBO family.



 

Swordmasterman on 17 June 2016
zero129 said:
i dont know how to reply back to both of you since both of you is gone completly off topic from what i was originally saying.

I mean you guys are going on about something of how MS is leaving generations and sony isnt, and the PS4k is just a more powerful ps4, and the xbox1 scorpio is the end of ms generations etc etc.

Whats this got to do with my original post?.

It was too long ago and I don't remember what you posted. We not stated that the Xbox One is the end of Microsoft's generation it was  Microsoft who stated it with "A place where no one is left behind" they stated that they don't play to stay making Generations, they killed it for their console, while Sony said that  even with the Neo on the market this does not means that they will not release a PS5.