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Overwatch...

Too expensive. 287 51.25%
 
Too cheap. 20 3.57%
 
The price is right. 127 22.68%
 
^If it had a campaign. 82 14.64%
 
Indifference. I just don... 44 7.86%
 
Total:560
Ganoncrotch said:
Pemalite said:

 

Team Fortress 2 is free right now.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/440/

It has been free for half a decade.

The gameplay is not more fleshed out, a couple of game modes and a dozen maps doesn't make a complete game.

The Multiplayer is balanced, I'll give it that, but it's boring. I bought the game on release and I am bored of it already. That itself is a problem.
It was also the same problem I had with Halo 5's bare-bones multiplayer. It was the same problem I had with Titanfall, Evolve... So why should I praise this and criticise those others for the exact same problem?

Apparantly constructive criticism is illegal on this forum.

Microtransactions do not belong in a full priced game that isn't even feature complete. It's a money grab.

As for the game being better than the ther titles I mentioned.. That is highly debatable. And you know what? Blizzard is actually my favorite developer of all time, StarCraft is my favorite franchise of all time and I am absolutely disgusted with Overwatch as it is right now and I WILL voice my opinion whether YOU like it or not.

Naw man, the constructive criticism of games is the lifeblood of VGchartz really, someone brings up a reason why they don't like something and others chat about how they agree or disagree, I think you've found yourself on the receiving end of the vocal minority who would rather name call in caps because you have dissed an aspect of a game which launched.

But I think Blizzard has just done themselves a bit of an injustice when it comes to the PC release of the game, since if you click on buying it on battlenet you are taken to buy the Origin pack which has things like a few skins for a selection of the Heroes and then bonus content.... for all of blizzards other games, Mercys wings for Diablo, a winston pet in WoW, a card or deck for hearthstone, some portraits for starcraft and so forth, but the thing is... if you click to buy above that you can select just Overwatch on it's own without the digital cosmetic stuff (mostly for other games) and you find the game there for €39.99 I think in trying to push the Origin pack they've actually made people think this game is more expensive than it actually can be gotten for.

That said consoles don't have an option other than Origin pack... and also don't get the items for the other blizz games on the PC ... so fuck console owners it seems a little bit :D

 

But yeah... Never stop criticising shit you don't like in games... when that happens then devs will have zero feedback on what is good or bad about their games, not a good thing!

Glad I'm not the only one. :)

ohmylanta1003 said:
Pemalite said:


Overwatch doesn't have a story, there is no story in the game, there are no animated cutscenes, there are no backstory tidbits or universe lore or conversations that take place between characters.
You need to look for that outside of the game.

Team Fortress 2 is free right now.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/440/

It has been free for half a decade.

The gameplay is not more fleshed out, a couple of game modes and a dozen maps doesn't make a complete game.

The Multiplayer is balanced, I'll give it that, but it's boring. I bought the game on release and I am bored of it already. That itself is a problem.
It was also the same problem I had with Halo 5's bare-bones multiplayer. It was the same problem I had with Titanfall, Evolve... So why should I praise this and criticise those others for the exact same problem?

Apparantly constructive criticism is illegal on this forum.

Microtransactions do not belong in a full priced game that isn't even feature complete. It's a money grab.

As for the game being better than the ther titles I mentioned.. That is highly debatable. And you know what? Blizzard is actually my favorite developer of all time, StarCraft is my favorite franchise of all time and I am absolutely disgusted with Overwatch as it is right now and I WILL voice my opinion whether YOU like it or not.

THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS! Do you think I'm fucking stupid or did you not read what I said to you? I fucking know it's free now. It WASN'T free when it came out almost 9 YEARS AGO! That's all that matters in this argument.

They will add more maps, but it's not like they need more. Look at the two most popular games right now. League of Legends and CS: GO. CS: GO has maybe 10 maps (but only 7 are played at a time) and I don't play League, but I'm pretty sure there are hardly any maps in that game either.

The game is not boring, as evidenced by the millions of people playing it right now. Just because you can't find any fun in it (maybe you're just not committed to doing anything but running up the middle of the map and dying) doesn't mean others haven't.

There are ZERO problems with these microtransactions.

You can voice your opinion. Doesn't mean it isn't stupid. Just know that a fuckton of people disagree with you. Just because the users on this site back you doesn't mean shit.

The last question is, what multiplayer games do you like? What is fully fleshed out? Not repetitive? What is good in your eyes? I highly doubt you'll come up with something, because I'm pretty sure you just don't enjoy these types of games. Which is fine. Go ahead. But there's no reason to shit on the game because you don't like a particular genre.

 

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Regardless of how Team Fortress was at Launch, it is free now.
Should we wait 9 years for Overwatch to catch up? No we shouldn't.
Team Fortress 2 is Overwatch's competition now and Team Fortress 2 is free, now.

Counter Strike has hundreds of community made maps. It also launched with 16 maps, more than overwatch... But you are only re-affirming my point, the same Criticism I hold against overwatch I hold against Counter Strike.
With that said Counter Strike GO was cheap on it's launch, like $15-$20 AUD. Not $100 AUD.

League of Legends is also free. So even if it had one map, that's still more value for money than what Overwatch offers. (It's hard to beat free!)


As for microtransactions, I'll agree to disagree, don't wish to keep beating that dead horse, I disagree with them in full priced games, whether it was Diablo 3, Halo 5... I disagree with them, give me expansion packs or chunky DLC instead.

Now your last question is a legitimate one.
I like games where there isn't only a couple of game modes. Take Unreal Tournament for instance, Death Match, Team Death Match, Capture the Flag, Free for all, Duel and then you have mutators on top to change everything up again.

What does overwatch have? Escort, Assault and Control. (You could include Hybrid I guess.)

Halo 5's Multiplayer has Warzone, Warzone Assault, Arena, Capture the Flag, Stronghold, Grifball, Breakout, Assault, Fiesta, Firefight, Team Slayer, Free for All, Infected and more.

Most games with a fully featured campaign also have a more fully featured multiplayer than Overwatch, it's something we as gamers have come to expect out of AAA games... A multiplayer component that lends itself to all sorts of players.



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Azuren said:
Is it trolling to say I feel it might be a tad overrated?



Because I feel it's a tad overrated. The last time a game released with only multiplayer and no campaign, it was panned for doing so (even though it was promised within two months for free). I feel there might be a bit of Blizzard bias going on.

Don't get me wrong, the game looks fantastic, but it doesn't seem like it brings anything revolutionary to the table. It's just a fresher, Blizzard-ier Team Fortress with Pixar-y animation (which you don't really get to ever see any of your own animations due to the whole First Person thing). SFV was a solid fighter with great animation and pseudo-free DLC (you could earn it or buy it), but sorry- no story, so it's clearly a mediocore game.

I guess I just don't understand. Eh. On topic, yeah, $60 is too expensive. But so is $40 for an FPS Moba. I'd pay $15, tops.

yes there is bias for Blizzard espacially for these reviewers. No way in hell deserves overwatch a 90+ on metacritic. The user score is the more honest score the game should have gotten.



Ruler said:
Azuren said:
Is it trolling to say I feel it might be a tad overrated?



Because I feel it's a tad overrated. The last time a game released with only multiplayer and no campaign, it was panned for doing so (even though it was promised within two months for free). I feel there might be a bit of Blizzard bias going on.

Don't get me wrong, the game looks fantastic, but it doesn't seem like it brings anything revolutionary to the table. It's just a fresher, Blizzard-ier Team Fortress with Pixar-y animation (which you don't really get to ever see any of your own animations due to the whole First Person thing). SFV was a solid fighter with great animation and pseudo-free DLC (you could earn it or buy it), but sorry- no story, so it's clearly a mediocore game.

I guess I just don't understand. Eh. On topic, yeah, $60 is too expensive. But so is $40 for an FPS Moba. I'd pay $15, tops.

yes there is bias for Blizzard espacially for these reviewers. No way in hell deserves overwatch a 90+ on metacritic. The user score is the more honest score the game should have gotten.

Street Fighter is an established franchise with expectations for what it needs to have. In no way similar to Overwatch at all. SFV launched very bare bones and was penalized for it. To be honest I am glad Overwatch is scoring well. Maybe reviewers have finally removed the sticks from their asses in regards to reviewing MP only games.

That said, LOL @ Blizzard bias and user scores being the more "honest" scores. And how much Overwatch have you played?

One thing people forget when complaining about content value for $60 and how bad microtransactions are is that all future DLC for the game is completely free. All new maps, modes, and characters will be free of charge. And you don't need to grind for it or buy it with real money. It's completely free.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Ruler said:

yes there is bias for Blizzard espacially for these reviewers. No way in hell deserves overwatch a 90+ on metacritic. The user score is the more honest score the game should have gotten.

Street Fighter is an established franchise with expectations for what it needs to have. In no way similar to Overwatch at all. SFV launched very bare bones and was penalized for it. To be honest I am glad Overwatch is scoring well. Maybe reviewers have finally removed the sticks from their asses in regards to reviewing MP only games.

That said, LOL @ Blizzard bias and user scores being the more "honest" scores. And how much Overwatch have you played?

One thing people forget when complaining about content value for $60 and how bad microtransactions are is that all future DLC for the game is completely free. All new maps, modes, and characters will be free of charge. And you don't need to grind for it or buy it with real money. It's completely free.

Street Fighter V is a game from a genre that almost exclusively defines itself by multiplayer competition that released with no single player campaign. 

Sounds an awful lot like Overwatch.

Oh wait, no, except SFV also promised DLC that you could earn, a campaign shortly after release, characters people were acquainted with, some classic and some revamped to differenciate themselves. In addition to this, there are new characters with widely varied skills and abilities to begin with, making every character vastly unique.

So what you're saying is, even though they are both multiplayer genre without stories and a varied roster that represent the pinnacle of their genres... one is somehow more deserving because the other is already established?

 

No sir, I don't believe I'll be drinking that Kool-aid.



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No, I never said any of that about either game being the pinnacle of anything. I'm not too impressed with Overwatch and I didn't care for SFV either :)

You're welcome to disagree. Overwatch is a MP only FPS. MP only games have never needed a SP portion. Because they are MP only. SFV launched bare bones without lots of the features and content expected not only of a modern fighting game, but of the franchise itself. And was rightfully penalized for it.

And the content coming in SFV is content you have to grind for or pay real money to unlock. So yeah, add that to the long list of shit Capcom screwed up with SFV.



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Ganoncrotch said:
vivster said:

Try to guess how many people who voted for that actually had an intention to buy it in the first place.

Hint: It's not 100%.

Can't really say for others, I rather enjoyed the beta and have considered buying it a few times over the weekend, seeing the insults flying here about how great it is really makes me think about how much the game relies on having a good community to be worth the money for me. I think other than wow there is no other game I play online, like I said though, liked the beta a lot just not the regular game type I play so the price is a little bit of a block for me. I'll see how sales are though for it, if tons of people pick it up then I'm sure there will be loads playing it for the next year at least. 

 

Just see things like evolve dying pretty quickly because the players weren't playing it, wouldn't fancy my first online shooter to not have people to shoot :) oh.....  Slight untruth!  I played some of mag just to see the mayhem of 256 players in a game but didn't actually rank up beyond the 128 player rounds, was still crazy tho.

It doesn't seem like you followed the media the past months. Overwatch will be a mega hit and will have no trouble breaking the 10m player mark. Just because it's incredibly well done and polished. The fact that Battleborn is tanking because it's just slightly the same as Overwatch but gets compared to it constantly is another testament to this.

That said, I will never ever play it because sadly it's not my genre. But Even I love what I'm seeing.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
Ruler said:

yes there is bias for Blizzard espacially for these reviewers. No way in hell deserves overwatch a 90+ on metacritic. The user score is the more honest score the game should have gotten.

Street Fighter is an established franchise with expectations for what it needs to have. In no way similar to Overwatch at all. SFV launched very bare bones and was penalized for it. To be honest I am glad Overwatch is scoring well. Maybe reviewers have finally removed the sticks from their asses in regards to reviewing MP only games.

That said, LOL @ Blizzard bias and user scores being the more "honest" scores. And how much Overwatch have you played?

One thing people forget when complaining about content value for $60 and how bad microtransactions are is that all future DLC for the game is completely free. All new maps, modes, and characters will be free of charge. And you don't need to grind for it or buy it with real money. It's completely free.

Its the truth look at the user scores not even on pc it reflects the reviewers, people arent happy paying 70€-50€ for it. I havent played overwatch, didnt even know about the beta. This game isnt in my aley, its online only and i think the artstyle and animations are very poor looking imo



I already have more hours into this game than Starfox which I paid the same amount.. o_o I enjoy the game, but I could see why is not for everyone. I can't stop playing though omg too addicting specially when I see myself getting better at the game.



Still don't understand why people support Overwatch!!! Must be because it's a Blizzard game, otherwise I don't know. Battleborn has alot more value and also replay value, without this horrible expensive microtransaction shit that Overwatch has!!!



vivster said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Can't really say for others, I rather enjoyed the beta and have considered buying it a few times over the weekend, seeing the insults flying here about how great it is really makes me think about how much the game relies on having a good community to be worth the money for me. I think other than wow there is no other game I play online, like I said though, liked the beta a lot just not the regular game type I play so the price is a little bit of a block for me. I'll see how sales are though for it, if tons of people pick it up then I'm sure there will be loads playing it for the next year at least. 

 

Just see things like evolve dying pretty quickly because the players weren't playing it, wouldn't fancy my first online shooter to not have people to shoot :) oh.....  Slight untruth!  I played some of mag just to see the mayhem of 256 players in a game but didn't actually rank up beyond the 128 player rounds, was still crazy tho.

It doesn't seem like you followed the media the past months. Overwatch will be a mega hit and will have no trouble breaking the 10m player mark. Just because it's incredibly well done and polished. The fact that Battleborn is tanking because it's just slightly the same as Overwatch but gets compared to it constantly is another testament to this.

That said, I will never ever play it because sadly it's not my genre. But Even I love what I'm seeing.

The same media which said the Vita would make a joke of the DS and 3DS right?

https://mynintendonews.com/2011/07/02/nintendo-3ds-pachter-believes-playstation-vita-will-rob-nintendos-market-share/

This media?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-07-12-ouya-console-will-be-as-big-as-iphone

or this media

http://attackofthefanboy.com/videos/new-details-street-fighter-v/

 

I just mean... Media can say whatever they like, but they're not spoon wielding Alakazams, they're just people at keyboards.



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