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SnakeDrake said:

So is there an even bigger bad then the first mutant.

Based on potential, yes. Apocalypse's powers aren't that special, it's other stuff that makes him formidable. He was just a mutant who had grey skin and blue lips, slightly strong and faster than everyone else but this gave him an edge in battle so he became powerful. He later found Celestial technology which is how he became how he is in the 90s cartoon and comics.

Magneto and Apocalypse are the biggest really, potential wise the reality manips are the most dangerous... like Moira's son, Proteus.



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Signalstar said:
Fox has no incentive to ever give back the X-men franchise to Disney. That would be throwing money out the window. The X-men comics have enough characters and story arcs to fill a hundred movies.

Neither did Sony with Spiderman. :)



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The Fury said:
Signalstar said:
Fox has no incentive to ever give back the X-men franchise to Disney. That would be throwing money out the window. The X-men comics have enough characters and story arcs to fill a hundred movies.

Neither did Sony with Spiderman. :)

Not even close to comparable. Spiderman focuses on one character and they all take place in New York. They realised eventually they would hit a dead end. Their plans included a Sinister Six spinoff, a female Spiderman film, and a story about a Young Aunt May as a spy. The box-office declined with each movie.

 

With X-Men Fox can jump in time, focus on single characters with the rights to hundreds of characters that appeared in the comics over the years.

 

Marvel comics even made a rule that writers cannot make any new mutant or X-men characters because that just helps Fox.



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Signalstar said:

Not even close to comparable. Spiderman focuses on one character and they all take place in New York. They realised eventually they would hit a dead end. Their plans included a Sinister Six spinoff, a female Spiderman film, and a story about a Young Aunt May as a spy. The box-office declined with each movie.

With X-Men Fox can jump in time, focus on single characters with the rights to hundreds of characters that appeared in the comics over the years.

Marvel comics even made a rule that writers cannot make any new mutant or X-men characters because that just helps Fox.

I'm well aware of the CompleX. :P Considering Marvel do make money from these films, Disney's choice in that was extremely petty.

But Spiderman films were far more successful money wise, they made more than 700million each reaching as high as 850mil. X-men films 400mil at best for some for nearly the same budget. DoFP was the most successful out of the lot and that was also expensive too.

Spiderman was flawed because the actor ages and it's the same for X-men. Hugh Jackman cannot look like a guy who doesn't age that much when he does. :P At some point, Hugh Jackman will leave and they'll have to replace Wolverine. They have too choices really, restart or give it back to Marvel because a Hugh jackman less Wolverine might not succeed.



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I must say... i loved it. I am sure whoever wants to hate it can do so very easily, but i loved it. I have a soft spot for the X-men though. They have always been my favorite comics. But, i can recognise some weaker points like Angel and Psylocke not beeing well developed at all for newcomers. They were fan service.

They nailed Apocalypse though. I saw reviews saying he was a generic villain. I don't agree at all. They managed to portray him as a godlike mutant, wich he is.



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SnakeDrake said:
All my knowledge of the x-men are from the cartoons and Apocalypse is always the biggest baddy the x-men has to beat. Comic book fans where do you think fox will go after this.

Onslaught is the only thing that pops to mind... and alien stuff (shi'ar etc.).

 

I agree with the guy that said give it back to marvel now. This movie connects directly to X-men 1 and 2. It stands on its own as 2 trilogies now. I'm ok if they want to call it quits here.

I'm glad they did Apocalypse. It's a villain that would never be accepted by the critics, but the fans love him.



Nem said:

They nailed Apocalypse though. I saw reviews saying he was a generic villain. I don't agree at all. They managed to portray him as a godlike mutant, wich he is.

In a sense he was generic. His the ideals from comics were kinda left out. He has done the ruling thing, making people think he was a god and moved on, he admits that himself in the comics. His 'the strong survive' statement was not present either. So what is left is just a villain who wants to harm and rule the world, which is generic without his unique traits.

Nem said:
SnakeDrake said:
All my knowledge of the x-men are from the cartoons and Apocalypse is always the biggest baddy the x-men has to beat. Comic book fans where do you think fox will go after this.

Onslaught is the only thing that pops to mind... and alien stuff (shi'ar etc.).

The Shi'Ar stuff would be great to see, other than the villain who was hinted at in the extra scene, there aren't really many big X-men villains left other than themselves. Nimrod was done in DoFP (kinda), we'll never seen Selene. You know who would work? Shadow King... he could be awesome. A being from another dimension with no form, taking over minds (including X-men) turning them against each other? 



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The Fury said:
Nem said:

They nailed Apocalypse though. I saw reviews saying he was a generic villain. I don't agree at all. They managed to portray him as a godlike mutant, wich he is.

In a sense he was generic. His the ideals from comics were kinda left out. He has done the ruling thing, making people think he was a god and moved on, he admits that himself in the comics. His 'the strong survive' statement was not present either. So what is left is just a villain who wants to harm and rule the world, which is generic without his unique traits.

Nem said:

Onslaught is the only thing that pops to mind... and alien stuff (shi'ar etc.).

The Shi'Ar stuff would be great to see, other than the villain who was hinted at in the extra scene, there aren't really many big X-men villains left other than themselves. Nimrod was done in DoFP (kinda), we'll never seen Selene. You know who would work? Shadow King... he could be awesome. A being from another dimension with no form, taking over minds (including X-men) turning them against each other? 

His ideals did get mentioned when he announced he would destroy the world of the weak and only the strong would survive.

This is his first rendition, so it makes sense that they represented him in his initial state as he appeared in the comics.

 

Theres something else they can also do if they want wich is Age of apocalypse. But deadpool is already using cable. :x



How much was Jennifer Lawrence in it?
I like the girt but man she's annoying after a while.



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Nem said:

Theres something else they can also do if they want wich is Age of apocalypse. But deadpool is already using cable. :x

I think this film would have been called Age of Apocalypse if it wasn't for Age of Ultron. Then Ultron never has had a superb story named directly after him while AoA is iconic to Poccy. If the secret ending is anything to go by, I can see them doing mutant massacre story.

Naum said:
How much was Jennifer Lawrence in it?
I like the girt but man she's annoying after a while.

She's basically the big name/draw in these films (right?) so a lot of it. She spent a lot of time not in Mystique form too, mainly JL form.



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