1337 Gamer said:
greenmedic88 said:
Well for small, low hardware overhead indy games sure, just as there were the same type of games on the PS3 that ran 1920x1080x60fps smoothly.
But obviously, we're all thinking about games using engines that push the bar or are at least within a generation of what's considered current.
For those types of games, I'm not sure why the delusion that $400 worth of hardware will accomplish what several times that in independently sourced off the shelf PC hardware will cost persists for any other reasons than wishful thinking or a fundamental lack of understanding of the amount of processing power required for that level of performance. I don't even think $400 worth of video card alone can be considered 4k capable for high end game engines.
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Nope. Even with a single GTX 1080 ($600+) you cant do 4k @ a rock solid 30 fps without dropping your settings in some games. No way a $400 console is gonna be able to pull it off. I think were still a Generation of Video cards away from 4k @ a rock solid 60 FPS with high to ultra settings. And even then were gonna be talking about the highest end GPUs aka Volta Titan or the amd equivilent.
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Nvidia likes to play it loose with their marketing in the whole "4k ready" bullet point for their cards. If I'm not mistaken, the GTX 970 was even marketed as such back when it was released and it's really a WQHD/WQXGA card for games.
This is where manufacturers can be a bit disingenuous. Technically, you can run 4k displays and even run lower overhead software at acceptable framerates, but realistically, the vast majority of people who are buying these video cards are using them for high end gaming.
All new, current gen GTX 1080 represents more of a value increase than a sheer performance increase proposition for potential buyers. The same amount of money is buying quite a bit more performance, but like you said, it's just not realistic to expect 4k at 60fps on high settings for everything or even most high end game engines.
For 4k/60fps without running the sliders down, that's still in the $1000 video card range and even then there are examples where the framerates are well below 60fps.
So really the challenge is getting that level of performance down to the $300-400 range which is:
A) not something I would expect to see by the next generation of video cards
B) still way too high for a $400 console
C) refers to Nvidia, not AMD who are not at the forefront of GPU performance even if for no reason that Nvidia has more money for R&D