Mirror's Edge Catalyst is 900p on PS4, 720p on Xbox One

[1337 Gamer]

greenmedic88 said:

1337 Gamer said:

Nope. Even with a single GTX 1080 ($600+) you cant do 4k @ a rock solid 30 fps without dropping your settings in some games. No way a $400 console is gonna be able to pull it off. I think were still a Generation of Video cards away from 4k @ a rock solid 60 FPS with high to ultra settings. And even then were gonna be talking about the highest end GPUs aka Volta Titan or the amd equivilent.

Nvidia likes to play it loose with their marketing in the whole "4k ready" bullet point for their cards. If I'm not mistaken, the GTX 970 was even marketed as such back when it was released and it's really a WQHD/WQXGA card for games.

This is where manufacturers can be a bit disingenuous. Technically, you can run 4k displays and even run lower overhead software at acceptable framerates, but realistically, the vast majority of people who are buying these video cards are using them for high end gaming. 

All new, current gen GTX 1080 represents more of a value increase than a sheer performance increase proposition for potential buyers. The same amount of money is buying quite a bit more performance, but like you said, it's just not realistic to expect 4k at 60fps on high settings for everything or even most high end game engines.

For 4k/60fps without running the sliders down, that's still in the $1000 video card range and even then there are examples where the framerates are well below 60fps. 

So really the challenge is getting that level of performance down to the $300-400 range which is:

A) not something I would expect to see by the next generation of video cards

B) still way too high for a $400 console

C) refers to Nvidia, not AMD who are not at the forefront of GPU performance even if for no reason that Nvidia has more money for R&D

 

I completely agree with you on every point you just made. I also agree that for console gamers its best to look at GPUs in the $200 range as being possible Neo and Scorpio upgrade paths. IF the whole system costs $400 theres no way the GPU is going to account for more than $150 - 200 of that budget.  And thats assuming they sell the console at cost. If they try to make a profit its going to drop further as well. Based on that price range The most I see the Neo having is an R7 370 or perhaps an r9 380 if sony and MS are willing to take a bit of a loss. While its a solid increase from the current GPUs, enither are going to run current Gen games at 4k. I have doubts it will actually be able to pull off VR too actually BUT thats a different point for a different day. However both options especially a 380 could definitely push 1080p resolutions of atleast 30 fps for all games in the future (unless of course devs try to do too much). At the end of the day everyone wins and it will be nice to see some consoles with some not quite so pathetic hardware.

 

TLDR I agree with you!