Bbc will show its new documentary. With the information Russia told the world almost 2 years ago. That boeing MH17 was shot by ukrainian jet. So what now? Will any reporter bitch who've made countless articles on 'Putin killed our son' at least say sorry?
Putin isn't any better or worse than Blair, Bush, Netanyahu, Modhi etc. The only difference is he is not part of the western allies.
All the above have profited from killing innocent people.
kowenicki said:
Yes he is. He is stealing funds from the Russian population. |
but stealing funds from the iraqi and lybian people is okay tough
kowenicki said:
No it wouldnt be. Do you have proof of that? Do you have proof that Blair and Bush have cash from those people in their personal wealth? By the way, I do not like Bush and Blair one bit... I actually hate Blair. But they arent onthe same level of corruption and deception that this megalomaniac is. |
http://theinternationalcoalition.blogspot.de/2011/06/how-war-made-bush-family-rich.html
there are various sources, micahel moore even made a documentary during the iraq war pointing it out
kowenicki said:
Yes he is. He is stealing funds from the Russian population. |
Two years ago West told us Putin steal 40 billion USD from Russian people.
Now - according to Panama papers its only 2 billion connected to him.
So it seems he returned 38 billion USD to Russian people. Good man! ))
Sharu said:
Two years ago West told us Putin steal 40 billion USD from Russian people. |
Nah, it seems only 2 billion was uncovered from Panama Papers.
kowenicki said:
There are other offshore banks and havens... But yeah, 2bn... thats ok then !? They must have used to pay those KGB guys and now Russian leaders more than I thought. What amazes me is the hero worship he gets from the people he is utterly screwing. |
It's funny, we are quick to complain about our own politicians in the west, and they are by any means better people than Putin, yet Putin gets so much praise from Russians.
kowenicki said:
Yep. Never put your leader on a pedastal, its dangerous. He is beyond scrutiny in Russia it seems... cant think why... |
Maybe because people start living much better WITH Putin then it was before him? )) Think simple!
If you'd have a politician who rules you for 16 years and your life gets better all this years, would you vote for him again?
P.S. And Crimea is just an icing on the cake. Nobody expected that present, but the more pleasure from thet we got! ))
Sharu said:
Maybe because people start living much better WITH Putin then it was before him? )) Think simple! If you'd have a politician who rules you for 16 years and your life gets better all this years, would you vote for him again? P.S. And Crimea is just an icing on the cake. Nobody expected that present, but the more pleasure from thet we got! )) |
How is it there really? I would rather hear it from someone who actually lives there as opposed to people in the West saying Putin is fucking everything up?
Sharu said:
Maybe because people start living much better WITH Putin then it was before him? )) Think simple! If you'd have a politician who rules you for 16 years and your life gets better all this years, would you vote for him again? P.S. And Crimea is just an icing on the cake. Nobody expected that present, but the more pleasure from thet we got! )) |
Or maybe because the russian people have a collective trauma from living under the of control tyrannic despotes for almost a century, all the while they were being formed to conform to a dictatorship which opressed every single little critical or otherwise deviant voice and systematically spied on it's own people.
And when that system finally broke down they never had the chance to truly learn what freedom actually means, and how to deal with it and so choose to go the familiar way of being dominated by a 'strong man' at the top at any cost.
This is not some revolutionary new concept. It happens all the time. Dictatoships form insecure, paranoid people who are desperate to hold on to strucktures. Freedom means resposibility, it's something that has to be taought and learned continuously to actually work and that includes the ability to think critically.
I know he gets idolized by russians ans ethnic russians alike, but Putin is not some good guy. He has been systematically stripping away freedom of press and russian peoples rights and got himself into a prime position to assume the position of next dictator. Very similar to what Erdogan has been doing in Turkey too.
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