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curl-6 on 25 April 2016
outlawauron said:

Ugh, the suggestion that anyone who doesn't like for Nintendo to screw with the game during localization should just go look at porn is incredibly stupid. 

Why? All that's being removed is a few centimeters of cartoon boob. If that means so much to you, it is freely available elsewhere.



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the_dark_lewd on 25 April 2016

Predictable. Nothing unexpected. Nintendo are just determined to keep their kiddy image in the west. It is quite patronising when it's a game that's largely going to be bought by teens and adults though.



outlawauron on 25 April 2016
DivinePaladin said:
outlawauron said:

Idols in this game aren't pre-teens. The fashion of the characters that they're chaning are kinda core to their profession and the theme of the game. 

Ugh, the suggestion that anyone who doesn't like for Nintendo to screw with the game during localization should just go look at porn is incredibly stupid. 

When I'm speaking of a greater "issue" than this one game, I'm not referencing only this game. Xenoblade had a 13 year old girl dressed pretty inappropriately. The main cast of this game was designed to be 17 in Japan, but some are given risqué outfits. This is a series where you fight dick monsters, it was never a censorship issue here - it's an issue of where you fight your battles in localization. Do you fight FOR underage characters being designed as sex figures (what does it say about you as a developer if you DO make that argument?) or do you let that go because it's 100% irrelevant to the game and because it's completely understandable to adjust something so minor because it can cause a big stink in another market that is less accepting of this sort of thing? Not to mention the fact that they're shooting for a T rating because the whole point was to market to both audiences in the crossover, and last I checked FE skewed a tad young in its fanbase. Dropping the rating is the best way to market a game that already has a good chance of ending up scalped to all hell within a month. 

 

I agree though, the porn comparison is ludicrous. Child porn isn't easily accessible (thank god), and there's no ostensible reason people would be complaining about this unless this was their way of projecting their desires upon underage video game characters, or unless they're being entitled babies about a non-issue. To those people, I say speak with your wallet. Don't buy the game if underage cleavage is what you're looking for in an RPG. If that's the case, try Neptunia. 

But is part of the story. The entire game is about idols and the character are dressed how idols are dressed. There's nothing out of character or tacked on. 

If they made a volleyball game for the upcoming olympics, they're not going to cover up the players with more covering swimsuits just cause. They're dressed how beach volleyball players are supposed to dress. 

People get upset because these changes are being done for no reason. There's no battle to fight, because there's literally no force pushing these changes. This game flopped in Japan, and it's going to do terribly here too. Censoring the game in any way only serves to make the game divisive.



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DivinePaladin on 25 April 2016
outlawauron said:
DivinePaladin said:

When I'm speaking of a greater "issue" than this one game, I'm not referencing only this game. Xenoblade had a 13 year old girl dressed pretty inappropriately. The main cast of this game was designed to be 17 in Japan, but some are given risqué outfits. This is a series where you fight dick monsters, it was never a censorship issue here - it's an issue of where you fight your battles in localization. Do you fight FOR underage characters being designed as sex figures (what does it say about you as a developer if you DO make that argument?) or do you let that go because it's 100% irrelevant to the game and because it's completely understandable to adjust something so minor because it can cause a big stink in another market that is less accepting of this sort of thing? Not to mention the fact that they're shooting for a T rating because the whole point was to market to both audiences in the crossover, and last I checked FE skewed a tad young in its fanbase. Dropping the rating is the best way to market a game that already has a good chance of ending up scalped to all hell within a month. 

 

I agree though, the porn comparison is ludicrous. Child porn isn't easily accessible (thank god), and there's no ostensible reason people would be complaining about this unless this was their way of projecting their desires upon underage video game characters, or unless they're being entitled babies about a non-issue. To those people, I say speak with your wallet. Don't buy the game if underage cleavage is what you're looking for in an RPG. If that's the case, try Neptunia. 

But is part of the story. The entire game is about idols and the character are dressed how idols are dressed. There's nothing out of character or tacked on. 

If they made a volleyball game for the upcoming olympics, they're not going to cover up the players with more covering swimsuits just cause. They're dressed how beach volleyball players are supposed to dress. 

People get upset because these changes are being done for no reason. There's no battle to fight, because there's literally no force pushing these changes. This game flopped in Japan, and it's going to do terribly here too. Censoring the game in any way only serves to make the game divisive.

It makes it SEEM divisive because censorship is a hot button issue for the hundred or so people on this site. Don't act like the US media wouldn't jump all over this game if it released in the US with underage characters dressing inappropriately. The size of the game's fanbase doesn't matter, it takes one person to notice it for everything to explode. 

 

Not to mention that dressing to show cleavage and probably more at later points in the game ISN'T part of the story. Don't be ridiculous. Dressing up is, not WHAT they dress up in. These aren't uniforms and they're not standardized, which completely ruins your bit about volleyball.

 

By the way, Japan DID make a beach volleyball video game series, and guess what? There's an underage character THERE too, with gratuitous sexualization! And Nintendo refused to publish that game in parts of Europe because, and I'm not kidding here, child porn laws are very tough in some areas of Europe. 



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Cobretti2 on 25 April 2016

so they changes a very faint pink stripes on her chest to a darker purplish looking colour



 

 

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Jranation on 25 April 2016
Cobretti2 said:
so they changes a very faint pink stripes on her chest to a darker purplish looking colour

 

Thats very "Heavy"........ XD 



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Jranation on 25 April 2016

I would also love to point out how this thread got sooo much attention than the the OFFICIAL TMS #FE thread and the 20minute english gameplay!

And tbh! This censorship have gotten lots of attention to the game. It can be bad or good but im glad people know that this game exist and it is coming!



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wombat123 on 25 April 2016

NCL should only let NOA have any say when it comes to E-Rated games. Everything else; NOA should just keep their mouths shut and mind their own business.



Jranation on 25 April 2016
outlawauron said:
DivinePaladin said:
If a game is designed with adult characters Nintendo has been shown generally to be all for the risqué outfits (they ENCOURAGED the cleavage on Bayo Link). It's when the characters are kids that problems arise in localization. If Japan wasn't ostensibly in love with scantily clad preteens we'd have no localization issues.

Idols in this game aren't pre-teens. The fashion of the characters that they're chaning are kinda core to their profession and the theme of the game. 

Ugh, the suggestion that anyone who doesn't like for Nintendo to screw with the game during localization should just go look at porn is incredibly stupid. 

 

Because most Wii U owners here on VGChartz doesn't go full on rage or  give a FUCK OR SHIT about the censorship. Because we hardly get any "sexual" games for the Wii U. I think Bayonetta is the most selling game on the Wii U which has quite a lot of "sexual" content. 

 

If this was on the PSVita or on the PS3 then YES! I would see people throwing Shit at the game because how they do get a lot of JRPG games which incorporates this. For a game to get censored while others don't........... 

 

And besides! Theres soooooo much more to the game that we should be talking about. I love how most people who comment here, I don't see in other TMS #FE threads. 



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gatito on 25 April 2016

They're just boobs, what's so great about them? You'll be able to find plenty of fan art way more explicit anyway.