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mornelithe on 17 April 2016
StarOcean said:
SamuelRSmith said:

Indeed, it's also sad that people forget (or, perhaps, never knew) that:

a) there were white slaves, and

b) there were black slave-owners

Yeah. I've been told I should feel bad about what "my" people (white Americans) did to black people before. It's like, bitch, my ancestors weren't even in this country 50 years ago v.v XD before that they were all in Sweden x.x So I claim no responsibility for anything involving the American slave trade x.x

Likewise, my family's Irish, two generations removed from the Emerald Isle.  We had jack all to do with it.  That's the thing though, none of these fucking idiots acknowledge that a whole SHITLOAD of people have moved to the US since Slavery ended.



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StarOcean on 17 April 2016
Teeqoz said:
StarOcean said:

Yeah. I've been told I should feel bad about what "my" people (white Americans) did to black people before. It's like, bitch, my ancestors weren't even in this country 50 years ago v.v XD before that they were all in Sweden x.x So I claim no responsibility for anything involving the American slave trade x.x

Swedish people probably participated in slave trade though

(Not that you should apologize for that reason, just sayin')

I don't have a source, but I do know for sure that Denmark-Norway (we were in a "union" (read: they controlled our country) with those danish jerks back then! ) participated in the slave trade.

EDIT: source for Swedish slave trade: http://www.nordstjernan.com/news/education%7Cresearch/5144/

 

Also @OPs question, of course white people can be discriminated against, though I have a hard time imagining there's much legit discrimination against whites going  in the west. I don't consider jokes against either race to be discrimination, so maybe the problem then is that some people are too PC to makes jokes about black people? Norway is a pretty PC country, but our humour is hardly PC, with the exception of a few stuck-up people. Don't let the few stuck-up people ruin your day mate!

Oh I know that the Swedish had their own. That's why I said American slave trade. No idea if my family participated in the Swedish one though. Could've, but I have no clue x.x XD



Teeqoz on 17 April 2016
StarOcean said:
Teeqoz said:

Swedish people probably participated in slave trade though

(Not that you should apologize for that reason, just sayin')

I don't have a source, but I do know for sure that Denmark-Norway (we were in a "union" (read: they controlled our country) with those danish jerks back then! ) participated in the slave trade.

EDIT: source for Swedish slave trade: http://www.nordstjernan.com/news/education%7Cresearch/5144/

 

Also @OPs question, of course white people can be discriminated against, though I have a hard time imagining there's much legit discrimination against whites going  in the west. I don't consider jokes against either race to be discrimination, so maybe the problem then is that some people are too PC to makes jokes about black people? Norway is a pretty PC country, but our humour is hardly PC, with the exception of a few stuck-up people. Don't let the few stuck-up people ruin your day mate!

Oh I know that the Swedish had their own. That's why I said American slave trade. No idea if my family participated in the Swedish one though. Could've, but I have no clue x.x XD

Well, depends on what you mean by "American". The slave trade I'm talking about would be african slaves being sent to swedish colonies in america. That happened with the Danish-Norwegian colonies at least.



StarOcean on 17 April 2016
Teeqoz said:
StarOcean said:

Oh I know that the Swedish had their own. That's why I said American slave trade. No idea if my family participated in the Swedish one though. Could've, but I have no clue x.x XD

Well, depends on what you mean by "American". The slave trade I'm talking about would be african slaves being sent to swedish colonies in america. That happened with the Danish-Norwegian colonies at least.

I guess my definition would consider those colonies "American" since they were colonies. And sure, not all colonies stayed in the country, but my family stayed in Sweden for a long while, after the slave trade. However on my dads side they went from Sweden to Canada about 150 years ago and the went to America in the late 70's



SvennoJ on 17 April 2016
StarOcean said:

Oh I know that the Swedish had their own. That's why I said American slave trade. No idea if my family participated in the Swedish one though. Could've, but I have no clue x.x XD

You sure you're not descendants of the vikings?
They raped and pillaged my birth country around 900 AD, I demand reparations and apologies! You should feel bad being Swedish terrorists and all.

Anyway slavery ended in 1865. Sure famililies were greatly disrupted by that, but that's now 6 generations ago.
Never forget, yet it's about time to forgive and move on.



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teigaga on 17 April 2016
SamuelRSmith said:
teigaga said:

You can and I don't think this is a thing.

I think what you're referring to is the idea thar whites can't he victims of racism? The basis here is that racism is systematic racial discrimination and that's where the "ism" comes from. Generally speaking it's hard to Systematically discriminate against a majority population who are in power (in America) where white is the default and generally the preference. I think the closest thing would positive discrimination in employment, not sure how prevelant this is.

Anyway it's such a silly line of discussion and it applies very selective understanding of the word "ism" which also just means belief. I don't think you're likely to stumble across the argument in real life, most people take the term racism on face value, discrimination on basis of race.

While that may true on a national level, whites are not the majority of many sub-regions of the USA, nor do they control the local power structure in a lot of those regions.

Local and state Governments have a far greater impact on the daily lives of individuals than the Federal government does. Even when the Federal gov't makes laws, they often rely on the interepretation and enforcement of state and local gov'ts.

For example, only 1% of drug enforcement is done at Federal level, 99% is done at state and local. Many often cite the drug war as an example of systematic racism in the USA. Other examples, like biased enforcement of traffic laws, and cities with stop-and-frisk policies, are also local rules where whites are not necessarily the majority or in control of the power structure.

Yeah, I agree with that. Its very contextual to ones environment. I also feel that racial descrimination on any level is inherently toxic so I don't care too much for whether its  systematic or interpersonal.



Aeolus451 on 17 April 2016

Sadly, "whites can't be discriminated against" and "whites can't define what's racist" kind of thinking is becoming more popular and politically correct. It's hypocritical and goes against the whole notion of equality.



Lawlight on 17 April 2016

If you're a minority, you have big advantages in the US. Big companies go out of their way to fill ethnicity quotas. Just look at how underrepresented white people are at Google in the US.



Acevil on 17 April 2016

 

Lawlight said:
If you're a minority, you have big advantages in the US. Big companies go out of their way to fill ethnicity quotas. Just look at how underrepresented white people are at Google in the US.

That does not look that bad. Namely when asians are out doing majority in the tech field.  Don't think you know what you are talking about with minorities.



 

SkepticallyMinded on 17 April 2016

Google was called out for lack of women, so they have been increasing that metric for quite some time now.