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Pemalite said:
I wouldn't be happy if it's only a 2.5 Teraflop Radeon GPU.
Would much rather something closer to 4 Teraflop GCN 1.2 GPU.

Polaris is only months away... And 14/16nm fabrication would be quick to transition to, making a big GPU feasible... Am I hoping to much as a PC gamer?
With a bigger GPU they wouldn't need to release a successor for a longer time with some luck.

There is no real need for such a strong GPU, such a strong GPU requires an adequate CPU and RAM, and that all leads to higher price point, probably around $400, I dont think Nintendo will want to go with high price again.

Personally if this rumor is true I expecting GPU around 2 Teraflop, around 25-30% better CPU than XB1/PS4 and adequate RAM, also Nintendo will probably want to aim price point of around $300. And I expecting 4k output for media.



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Tricky thing is will the controller have a screen on it? Like that free-form patent? Or will that be an optional thing?



HoloDust said:
Soundwave said:

Nintendo usually leans towards GPU-heavy designs, so if the CPU is 15-30% better, the GPU could be in the range of 30-40% higher than the PS4. Someone on NeoGaf was talking in the 2.5 TFLOP range.

Which is a lot of power for a Nintendo machine but on the other hand it's nothing terribly special for late 2016. 

Nintendo is probably aiming for something that can give them 1080p + 60 fps without too much hassle, 2.5 TFLOPS ought to do it. 

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was describing - 7870 (Pitcairn XT) with all CUs running at 1000MHz is 2.5TFLOPS...though, given the number of ACEs, PS4 looks more like Hawaii Pro (R9 290) cut in half, then 2CUs disabled, but more or less similar thing...anyway, my guess is, if Nintendo haven't decided to go berserk and get the latest from AMD, NX tech could be very similar to PS4s, just with full GPU, maybe newer CPU part and higher clocks.

The max I can see Nintendo going is with a Tonga/Antigua chip.

Not only is the chip more power efficient than previous AMD designs, but thanks to being GCN 1.2 it features the newer color compression tech and, while it's not used in the consumer cards, retains the 384-bit memory controller of Tahiti, so Nintendo could go with DDR4 memory and still have an acceptable bandwidth.

But unless Nintendo has really changed back to the old N64/GameCube days, I doubt they'll go as far.

 

OT: Since, and I'm using his own description, the hardware parts of this leak only have one souce and there are wrong parts, there are 64-bit ARM processors as has already been said in the thread, I wouldn't give much credibility to this "leak", at least when it comes to the hardware.



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Pemalite said:
I wouldn't be happy if it's only a 2.5 Teraflop Radeon GPU.
Would much rather something closer to 4 Teraflop GCN 1.2 GPU.

Polaris is only months away... And 14/16nm fabrication would be quick to transition to, making a big GPU feasible... Am I hoping to much as a PC gamer?
With a bigger GPU they wouldn't need to release a successor for a longer time with some luck.

I feel the same but if Nintendo really wanted to blow the PS4 out of the water I don't think they'd release this year. It'd make much more sense to wait til fall 2017 and make something more future proof spec wise+affordable.

Launching this year indicates that their goal is to join the generation ( ala N64) or create a new market (Wii ) as opposed to succeeding PS4. If they simply want to join or introduce some new ideas, then I think they will only target specs slightly above the PS4 at most. A 4Teraflop systems would largely go to waste when the average game is optimised for only 2tf. Theres are very few games where we see a big difference in PS4 version versus PC (excluding resolution).

The best thing for Nintendo to optimise their specs around would be playing current games at 1080p, 60fps.  



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Soundwave said:
Tricky thing is will the controller have a screen on it? Like that free-form patent? Or will that be an optional thing?

Not necessarily, they can port Splatoon and Mario Maker with different type of controls that doesn't need touch screen.



This sounds like an oxymoron

"The NX will be more powerful than the PS4. "By a noticeable amount". From the CPU, to GPU, to RAM. Sources don't know the clock speeds, or memory type or amount of memory. But if the CPU is 15-30% stronger than PS4 as alluded to by LCGeek, than the GPU would need to match that bump in order to not bottleneck (Nintendo hates their bottlenecks)."

 

Isn't the Xbox One CPU like 10% more powerful then the PS4s?



Well, it bloody well ought to be stronger than the PS4?! The question is, HOW much more stronger is it? And what other feature does it have? I hope he's right about the cross play and that Nintendo can make it work smoothly.



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fatslob-:O said:
Pemalite said:
I wouldn't be happy if it's only a 2.5 Teraflop Radeon GPU.
Would much rather something closer to 4 Teraflop GCN 1.2 GPU.

Polaris is only months away... And 14/16nm fabrication would be quick to transition to, making a big GPU feasible... Am I hoping to much as a PC gamer?
With a bigger GPU they wouldn't need to release a successor for a longer time with some luck.

You are expecting too much, we won't have the benefit of cheaper transistors ... 

Yeah I know. :( But if Ninty takes advantage of Polaris and it's efficiency... But that is likely a long shot. AMD has stagnated for way to long in the GPU space, which is mostly compounded by slow fabrication improvements.

Miyamotoo said:

There is no real need for such a strong GPU, such a strong GPU requires an adequate CPU and RAM, and that all leads to higher price point, probably around $400, I dont think Nintendo will want to go with high price again.

No you don't.
The GPU is independent of the CPU, the GPU can also offload some processing that is typically done on the CPU, the CPU is becoming less important for gaming as time goes on, provided it has CPU performance that is "good enough" then there is nothing to worry about. (Although more is better, you need to be realistic for a cost sensitive device.)
There are also tasks a GPU can perform that is not RAM/Bandwidth intensive, which would still allow for the hardware to still shine if the rest of the specs don't match up.
One would imagine that the console would be targeting only 1080P, so it's not like you need a ton of bandwidth and video memory for that low resolution anyway.

Price point should be affordable for a Radeon of that caliber.

teigaga said:

A 4Teraflop systems would largely go to waste when the average game is optimised for only 2tf. Theres are very few games where we see a big difference in PS4 version versus PC (excluding resolution).

The best thing for Nintendo to optimise their specs around would be playing current games at 1080p, 60fps.  


Not exactly. You remember there is another platform that greatly exceeds the PS4. That is the PC. - Multiplatform games are already a fairly chunky "step up" as most console multiplats are only "high" graphics rather than the PC's "Ultra". - It would also allow for more games to hit 1080P/60fps.




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So the only "likely" rumors hes heard... are those we all know about.. great.
Waste of a post by him. Theres no "news" or anything new in there.