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Barozi on 14 March 2016
Qwark said:
Oh well you had it coming Germany since this policy will cost you 50 billion euro's a year. http://m.dw.com/en/the-costs-of-the-refugee-crisis/a-19016394

The people who work their ass off in Germany don't want to live in poverty because of a self inflected crisis in the Middle East. (Yes it is self inflicted, did Europe drop down to civil war after WW2, I don't think so). These cultures in the Middle East need to be opressed and can't handle freedom and basic human rights. The mass rapes made that pretty clear now didn't it. The Germans are starting to see this and want to end this policy which clearly doesn't see the Germans as people but as cash cows to adopt Syria. (Which is going so extremely well)

1. Read the source properly. It says 50 billion in 2016 and 2017, that's 25 billion a year.

2. You act like this money is lost which is beyond stupid.
 - investments in the housing sector in Germany has been way too low for years.
 - the majority of the money will get right back into the economic system thus helping other Germans, who "work their asses off". The government will also get a huge chunk of that back immediately to due value added tax and other taxes.
 - lastly the refugees will slowly get into work and contribute their part to the social system.

@underlined sentence
now that's obviously racist.



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LurkerJ on 14 March 2016

People are sick of political correctness & naivety. So they turn to Trump & AfD to rid them from this disease. It's hard to blame them anymore. Merkel, wake up or leave.



LurkerJ on 14 March 2016
Barozi said:
Qwark said:
Oh well you had it coming Germany since this policy will cost you 50 billion euro's a year. http://m.dw.com/en/the-costs-of-the-refugee-crisis/a-19016394

The people who work their ass off in Germany don't want to live in poverty because of a self inflected crisis in the Middle East. (Yes it is self inflicted, did Europe drop down to civil war after WW2, I don't think so). These cultures in the Middle East need to be opressed and can't handle freedom and basic human rights. The mass rapes made that pretty clear now didn't it. The Germans are starting to see this and want to end this policy which clearly doesn't see the Germans as people but as cash cows to adopt Syria. (Which is going so extremely well)

1. Read the source properly. It says 50 billion in 2016 and 2017, that's 25 billion a year.

2. You act like this money is lost which is beyond stupid.
 - investments in the housing sector in Germany has been way too low for years.
 - the majority of the money will get right back into the economic system thus helping other Germans, who "work their asses off". The government will also get a huge chunk of that back immediately to due value added tax and other taxes.
 - lastly the refugees will slowly get into work and contribute their part to the social system.

@underlined sentence
now that's obviously racist.

Is it really racist? 

Can you live in the Middle East and express your opinion freely on Islam?

Can you be gay in the Middle East? 

Hell, can you be from the Shia sector of Islam and live happily as a Shia Muslim in a Sunni country?

You think these immigrants wouldn't have oppressed the other sector that drove them out of the balance of power shifted to their favour? 



Barozi on 14 March 2016
97alexk said:
Barozi said:
the AFD is an insignificant protest party that will never be part of any government. They can't and won't change anything. Like the Pirate party, they will soon be at 1-2% again. Probably some time after the next Bundestagswahl.


It's always sad to see how low some users of VGC have fallen. This thread shows it.

It seems like you want to silence democracy? they are still democratic. Anf if most people want this party. They will have the power. I have also german citizenship and i voted for them. I think its time to stop the madness that happens in europe

lol how did I imply that.

And that's the point. Most people DON'T want this party. They are at about 10% in the whole of Germany. Like it or not but that's still waaaaay too insignificant and considering the nazis are the only party that would want to form a coalition with them means that the rest (~90%) of the German partys can and will reject everything the AFD says.

 

Also it's just fine here in Europe :)



97alexk on 14 March 2016
Barozi said:
97alexk said:

It seems like you want to silence democracy? they are still democratic. Anf if most people want this party. They will have the power. I have also german citizenship and i voted for them. I think its time to stop the madness that happens in europe

lol how did I imply that.

And that's the point. Most people DON'T want this party. They are at about 10% in the whole of Germany. Like it or not but that's still waaaaay too insignificant and considering the nazis are the only party that would want to form a coalition with them means that the rest (~90%) of the German partys can and will reject everything the AFD says.

 

Also it's just fine here in Europe :)

Well, its fine right now, but not in 10 years when muslim extremists become more in germany, and you have more incidents like the one in Köln. also AfD is growing in germany, so they probably maybe even have more than 10%



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Barozi on 14 March 2016
LurkerJ said:
Barozi said:

1. Read the source properly. It says 50 billion in 2016 and 2017, that's 25 billion a year.

2. You act like this money is lost which is beyond stupid.
 - investments in the housing sector in Germany has been way too low for years.
 - the majority of the money will get right back into the economic system thus helping other Germans, who "work their asses off". The government will also get a huge chunk of that back immediately to due value added tax and other taxes.
 - lastly the refugees will slowly get into work and contribute their part to the social system.

@underlined sentence
now that's obviously racist.

Is it really racist? 

Can you live in the Middle East and express your opinion freely on Islam?

Can you be gay in the Middle East? 

Hell, can you be from the Shia sector of Islam and live happily as a Shia Muslim in a Sunni country?

You think these immigrants wouldn't have oppressed the other sector that drove them out of the balance of power shifted to their favour? 

Of course it's racist. Saying a culture needs to be oppressed is no better than saying that blacks are only good for slavery.

Maybe you didn't notice but could it be that the things you mentioned are like that BECAUSE they are mostly oppressed by either their own kind or some foreign invader?
The same things applied during the Nazi times.
Could you be gay in Nazi Germany?
Could you be disabled in Nazi Germany?
Could you express your opinion freely on the Führer?
Could you be Yewish and live happily in Nazi Germany?

Obviously not, but that's evidently no reason to say that a culture has to be oppressed in all eternity.



melbye on 14 March 2016

Weimar Republic part 2.



Barozi on 14 March 2016
97alexk said:
Barozi said:

lol how did I imply that.

And that's the point. Most people DON'T want this party. They are at about 10% in the whole of Germany. Like it or not but that's still waaaaay too insignificant and considering the nazis are the only party that would want to form a coalition with them means that the rest (~90%) of the German partys can and will reject everything the AFD says.

 

Also it's just fine here in Europe :)

Well, its fine right now, but not in 10 years when muslim extremists become more in germany, and you have more incidents like the one in Köln. also AfD is growing in germany, so they probably maybe even have more than 10%

you mean "if". You don't know what's going to happen. If there's no or at least no strong IS anymore in 10 years there will be a lot less extremists. Organization and promises is what makes them strong. Once this is gone the threat within other countries will crumble as well.
Though we have to do a much better job than France did with their North African immigrants. That's for sure.



97alexk on 14 March 2016
Barozi said:
97alexk said:

Well, its fine right now, but not in 10 years when muslim extremists become more in germany, and you have more incidents like the one in Köln. also AfD is growing in germany, so they probably maybe even have more than 10%

you mean "if". You don't know what's going to happen. If there's no or at least no strong IS anymore in 10 years there will be a lot less extremists. Organization and promises is what makes them strong. Once this is gone the threat within other countries will crumble as well.
Though we have to do a much better job than France did with their North African immigrants. That's for sure.

Im preatty sure its going to happen, because some islam extermists dont have to be with IS to believe that every woman should wear burqa or niquab, alot of muslims think like that, and i feel sorry for the everyday muslims that are like us, and just want to live like us but have been forced to be muslims from their youth. Alot of muslim families, especially from africa and so on, get alot of children. It is decreasing yes, but in Sweden last year there were more muslim kids who arrived to sweden than swedish kids born, Now think that scenario every year and in 30 years Swedish are a minority.



DirtyP2002 on 14 March 2016
OdinHades said:
I can't hear it anymore. Imagine the US wouldn't have let refugees in during WW2. Einstein would have simply died in a concentration camp or something. No relativity for us, sorry. You wouldn't be sitting on a PC or smartphone right now without a little help of that (jewish) refugee.

Fucking Nazis.

That is probably the most stupid comparison you can make.

 

There were 500k jewish people in Germany in 1933.
In a 8 year time frame 250k of them left Germany till 1941.

Most of them were educated and wealthy.

 

Germany welcomed 1.1 million refugees in 2015 alone... and ... well ... not really educated and wealthy.


And there is the Emergency Quota Act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Quota_Act) to avoid refugees from Europe after WW1.
And there is the Immigration Act of 1924 with more or less the same purpose. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924)

So the USA already did what you criticise Germany for, because they MIGHT do it.
And the USA really saw the benefits.

Fucking Nazis, heh?



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