This is the fatal mistake that is killing the hype of this game, and everybody that has played says the same, it looks WAY more weebo and popy than it actually is, the story is actually deep, the characters are interesting, the combat system is REALLY good, It has all that wonderfull Atlus style and even many people say this is probably a project the team wanted to do for a long time, something they really loved to make because there is a ton of care put in it.

Yet the people only think sees a pop music idol simulator. Is like if Persona was presented for the first time and people disliked it because they think is just a teenager highschool simulator. I hope at least NA is able to apreaciate what team Atlus has done here.

I think the point is to make something different. I mean, you can do this game resembling a lot both of the other games, and maybe it'll be more sucessful. But I really appreciate that they try to do something different to the games we already have on Nintendo consoles. It resembles more Persona games than SMT or FE, that's for sure. I can't speak for the rest, but I prefer that they try something different than just another SMT with demons based on FE. I don't remember seeing angry posts of FE fans expecting a FE game, or SMT fans expecting a SMT game. Maybe they'll be just indifferent towards it. And it surely will affect sales. But it won't speak for the title's quality in the end. And, as I said, it's not just an japanese idol game xDDDD.

The problem is not just what it is, I think it was a problem of... bad marketing. I mean, they were honest about the game and its atmosphere, and about Japanese idols playing an important part on the game. But, maybe, I'll "lie" a little and just make trailers about the dark stuff that this game has, something epic and gritty. Because that's what sold nowadays. Because people don't usually do some research and take everything from 1 minute trailers. Internet kinda transform the gaming world in a fast-food chain. And it's a given that a lot of people takes one impression and don't even try to go deeper. 

I liked that analogy xD

Yes, they should have been way smarter with the marketing, absolutely true, specially in the west, they used the same trailers here and there and I think that was dumb, the west in more interested on the serious part of the game, show us the light hearted part too, but dont make it look like 90% is pinky poppy boobs singing candy candy.

Tell you what: point out where I said that nobody cares about Fire Emblem. Protip: caring more about one thing doesn't mean you don't care about the other. 

Also, yeah, it kind of sold more than both combined? There's a wierd situation since they also shipped in a bundle together. But in actuality, no, it didn't: there are roughly 3 million copies of SotC out there. And this isn't counting the fact that every PS+ member received a digital copy of both as part of their instant game collections. 

And yes, it did average out to a single point higher than SotC, and 2 points higher than ICO. That said, the average Metacritic for Fire Emblem as a whole is 86.7, whereas Team Ico games are 90.5. I suppose that could also be why the Internet is more excited for TLG than SMTxFE- because they KNOW TLG will be an amazing game, simply because Team Ico has never made anything else. Fire Emblem's track record could mean this is just going to be another "Eh, it's Fire Emblem, I guess I'll try it" release. And then there's that 80.8 average hanging onto the SMT numbers (with only one being as highly rated as either Ico game).

And no, it's not a meme. People were this excited over it when it was first announced, too. Why? Because, and I repeat, Team Ico hasn't made anything except amazing games.

So to reiterate: Never said no one cares about FE; no, Fates didn't outsell total sales of both Ico and SotC; Yes, Fates scored higher; No, Fire Emblem didn't score higher; not a single SMT was rated as highly as SotC; it's not suddenly been hyped because it's a meme, it's been hyped since it was originally announced because Team Ico has never failed. 

That is a desperate excuse, come on.

And it makes little to no sense that we give more credit to a team that has made 2 good games in 20 years than teams that had made dozens of great games in the same time like Atlus and Inteligent Systems, of course the average of FE is worse, now take only the 2 best rated FE (the last ones) and the average is higher than Team Ico. TLG is more a meme than a game people is excited about, even the gameplay they show, while I liked it, it was nothing exciting and certainly nothing new, but memes are really strong, and this was a huge one.

TLG will largely outsell Mirage though.

And who said otherwise?

Dunno, i think i didn't read all your quotes.

Wait, did you really say TLG is a meme?

TLG is more hyped because Team ICO track record is simply better than FE & SMT franchises.

The shitstorm wasnt even big, only few people hated it. Most peopled either liked it or didnt say anything. And it has alot if inspiration from japanese pop idol. Wich alot of anime fans love, some dont like it though, but its not only that