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Madword said:
I do wonder about MS's strategy this year, they don't really have many big game titles as of yet, and they'll lose a lot of PR opportunities with not being on the VR bandwagon, and with all the different competition its probably a good thing (perhaps they didnt want another BR and HD situation), but I feel Ms is going to have a bad year this year, and partly because attention is off their console because this years focus is on VR.

So I expect the gap to widen quite a bit this year. Be interesting to see what the big hitters are going to be this christmas, E3 is going to be very interesting.

They have an event in two days and are expected to speak about how the universal app things will work for Xbox and PC and how devs will be able to make games for both platforms. 



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jason1637 said:
Madword said:
I do wonder about MS's strategy this year, they don't really have many big game titles as of yet, and they'll lose a lot of PR opportunities with not being on the VR bandwagon, and with all the different competition its probably a good thing (perhaps they didnt want another BR and HD situation), but I feel Ms is going to have a bad year this year, and partly because attention is off their console because this years focus is on VR.

So I expect the gap to widen quite a bit this year. Be interesting to see what the big hitters are going to be this christmas, E3 is going to be very interesting.

They have an event in two days and are expected to speak about how the universal app things will work for Xbox and PC and how devs will be able to make games for both platforms. 

But that isnt going to excite XBO owners though is it or potential owners. It's a potential "nice to have", but it wont make people rush out and get the console, or actually increase peoples confidence in the platform.



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JRPGfan said:
GribbleGrunger said:

HARDWARE
#15 PS4 Black Ops 3 Bundle (same)
#19 PSVR Launch Bundle (up 1)
#88 XB1 Gears Bundle (same)
#99 XB1 Name Your Game Bundle (down 3)
#286 XB1 Quantum Break SE Bundle (down 29)

If the Gears bundle is out of stock and the "Name your game bundle" is actually dropping in rankings (it is atm @99).

Could we end up with a situation where the Xbox One doesnt have any bundles in the top100 on amazon?

Could that actually happend, even just for a short periode of time?

I dont think it will but... jeez.

How many bundles Xbox One, have avaliable on Amazon ?, if Gears of War is falling, and we have other 8 Bundles, the Users might split into those bundles, and maybe some of thoses will not hit the top 100, because have too many.



Madword said:
I do wonder about MS's strategy this year, they don't really have many big game titles as of yet, and they'll lose a lot of PR opportunities with not being on the VR bandwagon, and with all the different competition its probably a good thing (perhaps they didnt want another BR and HD situation), but I feel Ms is going to have a bad year this year, and partly because attention is off their console because this years focus is on VR.

So I expect the gap to widen quite a bit this year. Be interesting to see what the big hitters are going to be this christmas, E3 is going to be very interesting.

E3, is aways interesting, and is just 2 and a half month away from E3.



Swordmasterman said:
Madword said:
I do wonder about MS's strategy this year, they don't really have many big game titles as of yet, and they'll lose a lot of PR opportunities with not being on the VR bandwagon, and with all the different competition its probably a good thing (perhaps they didnt want another BR and HD situation), but I feel Ms is going to have a bad year this year, and partly because attention is off their console because this years focus is on VR.

So I expect the gap to widen quite a bit this year. Be interesting to see what the big hitters are going to be this christmas, E3 is going to be very interesting.

E3, is aways interesting, and is just 2 and a half month away from E3.

I love E3, even though it usually means staying up till 3am in the morning, but I do enjoy it.... unfortunately if Sony's conference is on a Tuesday or wednesday this year, wont be able to watch it in the early morning. Blah.



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Madword said:
Swordmasterman said:

E3, is aways interesting, and is just 2 and a half month away from E3.

I love E3, even though it usually means staying up till 3am in the morning, but I do enjoy it.... unfortunately if Sony's conference is on a Tuesday or wednesday this year, wont be able to watch it in the early morning. Blah.

what is the hour of the Last conference of each day  ?, is from 23.00 PM (USA), to 0.30 AM (USA) ?, where i live is 3 Hours ahead of the USA.



Swordmasterman said:
Madword said:

I love E3, even though it usually means staying up till 3am in the morning, but I do enjoy it.... unfortunately if Sony's conference is on a Tuesday or wednesday this year, wont be able to watch it in the early morning. Blah.

what is the hour of the Last conference of each day  ?, is from 23.00 PM (USA), to 0.30 AM (USA) ?, where i live is 3 Hours ahead of the USA.

It used to be a wednesday when Nintendo did a conference, but I believe its going to be more confusing this year as a few companies are doing theirs outside of E3... probably to ensure they dont get all their rubbish announcements lost (hey here we have a mobile game..... oh man no one is interested, its not cause its a rubbish game but because people were more excited by the conference two hours before us)...



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While i don't 100% agree with him, i think i should post the Welfare comment about that XBOX trend on Amazon.

Welfare said:

Do I have to repeat myself again.
Amazon will not be an accurate representation of how well the Xbox One is doing for this month and April.
The Gears of War bundle looks to have very low stock, and the next popular sku, the $298 Name Your Game bundle, is currently #104. Pretty bad, right? Yes, for Amazon, not the XB1.

How can that be?
Well, in order to know the future, you must learn from the past.

In March 2015, there was no special deal going on, and the only potential hardware impacting game was Hardline, and that is a big potentially since it only sold ~430k. 236k XB1's were sold that month, or 47,200 units a week (236,000 / 5). In April 2015, there were two noticeable deals. One at Gamestop, which was a $125 Trade in deal, lasting 3 weeks, bringing the XB1 down to $224. The other was a one week deal at Best Buy, and the TiD was $175, making the XB1 $175. These deals actually held the XB1's weekly average going into April. In April 2015, the XB1 sold 187k units, or a weekly average of 46,750 (187,000 / 4). That is a -1% change, when March to April drops are in the 30% range, so that is really impressive.

Now then, what about the present? What did the past have to do with why XB1 sales would slow rapidly at Amazon? Is the XB1 DOOMED?

Well, look down.

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/pages/landing/XBO/images/xboxone_offerpage_3-20.jpg

Look at that. Just look and study the contents of that pic for just a bit.
Not only is the $50 price drop in effect at Gamestop, there is a $100 trade in deal, bringing the price of a 500GB sku to $199 and a 1TB sku to $249. That combo started on March 21st, and lasts until April 24th, or 2 weeks in the March NPD and 3 weeks in the April NPD.

That is insane, and as this deal spreads around, less and less will look to Amazon to buy an XB1. We are seeing these effects right now. Remember, Amazon represents only a small percentage of the whole video game market in the US, something like 6%. Gamestop is easily at least 5 (most likely more) times as big as them when it comes to sales, so when a big deal like this is done at the biggest retailer for video games and it's in store only, we won't see how well it does until April 14th, the day NPD releases the March results. 

However, we can already see an inkling of this since XB1 Amazon sales have never been this low, and a $50 price cut would not have 0 effect, or even a negative effect, so outside forces have to be at play.



So is that guy saying that everyone will be rushing to trade in their 360 and and PS3 slims at Gamestop to get an Xbox One so everyone will avoid Amazon? Oh boy. The fact that they're offering a trade-in deal on top of the brand new price cut should be setting off alarms anyway.

The Amazon chart may not be accurate, but it does point to a down trend.



He is saying that make more sense buy an XB1 from Gamestop that from Amazon those 2 months, thanks those good deals, and that this could expain why XB1 is doing SO MUCH bad on Amazon now.

I think this make sense, even if i don't believe that Gamestop deals are gonna help a lot...