This thread was quite a laugh, I admit.

I still think Lair will probably sell 500,000 units over the course of its lifetime. But in terms of a 30million US game, that's a huge financial loss. I wonder whether Sony might attempt to get out of its remaining contract with Factor Five and stop production on their next game after all is said and done.

I hate to kick someone when they're down, but in response to my first post on this site, ckmlb said "I bet you Project Sylpheed will be a decent game and will sell decent."

Project Sylpheed sold 14,500 in three weeks before dropping off the US charts and has a Metascore of 63.

i thought the game was around 25 mill total of everything hopefully it will sell 1million and have sequel!!!!

Ahh, 0 for 4 then.  What happened to Piritakio?  His comment is another gem,  

Too bad he hasn't posted since June, I'm interested in if he is still buying it.

Alb let me know what you honestly think of the game when you finish it. I know it has gotten some really bad reviews and all but a fair and honest review from someone on this site who is looking forward to the game is probably far more trustworthy than any gaming site I could visit.

Lair was overhyped by a lot of people. A LOT. Not neccessarily on the VGchartz forums, but lots of other forums.

I think it's because, one, it's Factor 5. They made, arguably, one of the most beautiful games for the Gamecube at launch. Two, it's dragons. The few dragon games that have come out have been quite phenomenal (see Panzer Dragoon). And, I think that's what I was hoping it would be like. Can't really blame anyone for hyping this game. The trailers, the music ... all top notch stuff.

Well, I stand by my comments. First of all, Lair was only "hyped" because people are legitimately excited about riding a dragon and fighting hordes of enemies. If you aren't, then I guess you don't understand.  Oh, and it looks really good and seems to have a good tone for the story.  I'm still going to rent it because I find a lot of people don't like Six-axis controls when it works for me, but obviously I am very disappointed with the review scores being low.

Anyway, judging whether a game was overhyped or not has nothing to do with sales. I understand this website is a sales counter but imo you judge a game based on review scores. Bioshock was clearly not overhyped.

Btw, Blue Dragon did turn out to be like ckmlb and others predicted. It is equal to the PSP RPG Brave Story: New Traveler in that it is a mediocre RPG that receives decent rankings because it is the best option on the platform.

Blue Dragon is averaging 77, and Brave Story is averging 79. Decent RPGS. Btw, Eternal Sonata is much the same at 78 average so far. (scores from gamerankings.com because metacritic doesn't take a true average and I refuse to read their explanation considering its a simple thing to just average scores).

I hope Folklore receives better reviews because the demo has me excited (as did the Japanese demo, but it's better being able to understand the story as well).