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Are you left winged or right winged?

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kitler53 said:
i've got two wings. it keeps me from flying in circles and not going anywhere.

"Left wing, right wing, so I can fly."





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Left with some right views.



Groundking said:
WolfpackN64 said:

Some regulations protect competition, some advance monopolies. Truth remains, if you're in a completely deregulated economy, being an ambitious young company won't do you any good if large monopolies will try to squash you by any means necessary.

In the earlier stages of capitalism, where regulations were few or nonexistant, there was a clear and undeniable tendancy towards monopoly. From industrial to banking monopolies.

 



 

Show me any free market that tends towards monopolies in the long term? Oh you can't can you, because it doesnt happen. I'm also still to see a valid argument against a monopoly in a free market. Face it, you're communistic ideas are defunct, and completely ridiculous, as shown by the Soviets and pre-1980 China, which were both hell holes. I mean FFS even Putin, from one of the most left wing countries on earth admits that Socialism, let alone communism, fails catestrophically.

 

I hate to break it to you but Leninist and Stalinist "communism" allowed the Soviet Union to transform from a backward, war torn hellhole into a global super power. You can shit on collectivism all you want (I'll take individualism any day because I enjoy my personal liberties thank you very much) but to deny the fact that the Soviets achieved and maintained an extremely high level of productivity is historical revisionism at its finest. Furthermore, calling modern day Russia left wing is hilariously misinformed and even the false dichotomy created by reductive left/right thinking can not pigeonhole a corporatist nation dominated by the right-wing into somehow qualifying as leftist.



I think property owners should hold exclusive voting rights. And loser should be Vice President like in the original deal. And congress should coin money. And federal power aught to be in their original enumeration. Till then I don't vote.



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I am an extreme centrist.



Shiken said:
Night Wing

Buffalo wing...





fory77 said:
I am an extreme centrist.

So you're a black hole?





Groundking said:
WolfpackN64 said:

You're first 3 points are immediatly moot. Marx was a hard worker. He was a journalist, writer and a politician, constantly chased out of the countries he established himself in, constantly needing to re-establish his party and organizations and had to go through nearly inhuman means to keep the First Worker's International together as long as it did. Secondly, it was not his wife who constantly supported him. The Marx' came by with very little, but when the need was high, it was Friedrich Engels who happily lend a hand to support his friend.

Monopolies inevitably form in deregulated capitalist societies. Regulation ensures competetion, without it, we would end up with a small bunch of monopolies due to the aggregation of capital and the agressive ouster of adversaries on the market. Read "Imperialism as the highest stage of capitalism" by V.I. Lenin to know more.

I suggest an apology to Marx from you is in order.



No, they're not, he never worked a job in his life, he was no more than a crackpot philosopher, he was no politician. No, he was kicked out of Belguim because he was arming the Bulgian revolutionists, and he was kicked out of France because they realised he was a moron. He often got money from his Father and his Wifes Family, Marx's family was a upper-middle/lower-upper class family, the fact that he inherited at least 5000 Francs way back in 1848 (IIRC, it was when there was massive uprising in Europe, which also lead to the French Monarchs being overthrown) tells you all you need to know about his own families wealth, let alone his wifes. Yes, like I said he exploited the workers of Engels families factory. He's a complete hypocrite.

If you truly believe that deregulation leads to monopolies in the free market then you have no economic knowladge at all.

No, the only apology regarding Marx that is in order is HIS appology to firstly his whife, who by his means ostricised her from her Family, proceeded to lead what should have been an upper class family, considering both family backgrounds, to lose FOUR out of the seven children they had by living in truly awful conditions (because he refused to go out to work and earn money, and boozed what they had away), AND for cheating on her with the 'housekeeper', who was nothing more than a slave, as he never paid her. Then he needs to appologies to society as a whole for spewing such utter nonsense that has lead to untold, unessecary deaths and turmoil in the world.



I'm only interested in replying to the bold part.
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AsGryffynn said:
I am a communist. No bonus points for guessing where that puts me...

Anything but extreme right puts you on "the left" today.



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