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Boberkun on 12 January 2016

Nintation360 said:

  Why did the Little Big Planet series die?....

Shit physics. Ugly visual.





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Zkuq on 12 January 2016

Personally I think the gameplay just doesn't feel quite right. It feels good, but it needs to feel even better.



naruball on 12 January 2016
Boberkun said:

Nintation360 said:

  Why did the Little Big Planet series die?....

Shit physics. Ugly visual.

Did the "shit" physics and "ugly visuals" stop LBP from selling around 6m? Yeah, thought so. What about LBP vita, LBP2, and LBP3? WIth such shit physics and ugly visuals how come games without shit physics and ugly visuals of the same genre haven't sold more, other than Ninty games with well established characters?

Do people look at the data before they speak? Like ever?





Smear-Gel on 12 January 2016
RolStoppable said:
Teeqoz said:
Why do people compare LBP to Mario? =__=

The best user-created levels in LBP aren't platformer levels. In LBP, you can make RPGs, twin-stick shooters, sidescrolling shooters etc.

Because it makes perfect sense.

Oh man, even without the pictures than was great





Nem on 12 January 2016
Teeqoz said:
Nem said:

 

Jak and daxter sold 3.6m according to this website. Subsequent installments sold less cause "guns" and lost the colorfulness. The series ended because "naughty dog". Same thing that happened with crash.

"cute" platformers are not dead. Its the predominance of brown and grey in art style that fails to appeal to its targeted audience.

Make a goregeus, colourful and with great landscapes platformer and i'm sure it would sell alot.

 

How do you explain Ratchet's decline in sales? You can't blame it on "guns", because Ratchet had guns from the first entry. You also certainly can't blame it on it losing it's colourfulness, because, well, it hasn't, yet each mainline entry sold less than the previous one. Also Sly Cooper, Sly 4 was a gorgeous, colorful (no guns either) platformer, and had great landscapes and was generally a blast to play, yet it bombed.

 

Ratchet and clank was never very colourful except for the first game. Into the nexus tried aswell, but i still thin the pallete is too grey and brown.

Really, i think the key is the smart use of color. Realistic doesnt go well with Platformers and mascots.



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zorg1000 on 12 January 2016
naruball said:
Teeqoz said:

 

How do you explain Ratchet's decline in sales? You can't blame it on "guns", because Ratchet had guns from the first entry. You also certainly can't blame it on it losing it's colourfulness, because, well, it hasn't, yet each mainline entry sold less than the previous one. Also Sly Cooper, Sly 4 was a gorgeous, colorful (no guns either) platformer, and had great landscapes and was generally a blast to play, yet it bombed.

Yup. Since the ps3/xb360/wii era, platformers (without Ninty chracters) have not done well at all. They are simply past their prime. It's not LBP being bad or anything, it's gamers not having an interest in them. LBP was the last sales success in the genre.

 

 

 

3rd parties & the AAA market of online shooters, open-world action, sports/racing Sims have caused barely anything but those genres to be successful on consoles at retail. The "hardcore" gaming market has pretty much just become a market for 13-30 year old males.



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160rmf on 12 January 2016
naruball said:
Boberkun said:

Shit physics. Ugly visual.

Did the "shit" physics and "ugly visuals" stop LBP from selling around 6m? Yeah, thought so. What about LBP vita, LBP2, and LBP3? WIth such shit physics and ugly visuals how come games without shit physics and ugly visuals of the same genre haven't sold more, other than Ninty games with well established characters?

Do people look at the data before they speak? Like ever?

bolded: Maybe at first people thought this game would be similar to mario. Imagine a lot of frustrate parents that bought a console for their children trying to find a family friendly game on the store:

- Hi, do you have mario for ps3?

- Sorry, sir. We don't have it. But we just received this game! It's looks very similar

- Thank god! Put on a gift box, pls



 

 

We reap what we sow

Teeqoz on 12 January 2016
Nem said:
Teeqoz said:
Nem said:

 

Jak and daxter sold 3.6m according to this website. Subsequent installments sold less cause "guns" and lost the colorfulness. The series ended because "naughty dog". Same thing that happened with crash.

"cute" platformers are not dead. Its the predominance of brown and grey in art style that fails to appeal to its targeted audience.

Make a goregeus, colourful and with great landscapes platformer and i'm sure it would sell alot.

 

How do you explain Ratchet's decline in sales? You can't blame it on "guns", because Ratchet had guns from the first entry. You also certainly can't blame it on it losing it's colourfulness, because, well, it hasn't, yet each mainline entry sold less than the previous one. Also Sly Cooper, Sly 4 was a gorgeous, colorful (no guns either) platformer, and had great landscapes and was generally a blast to play, yet it bombed.

 

Ratchet and clank was never very colourful except for the first game. Into the nexus tried aswell, but i still thin the pallete is too grey and brown.

Really, i think the key is the smart use of color. Realistic doesnt go well with Platformers and mascots.

 

Hahaha, really now? How do you define very colorful?

 

"Not very colorful"

Sorry for long post.



naruball on 12 January 2016
160rmf said:
naruball said:
Boberkun said:

Shit physics. Ugly visual.

Did the "shit" physics and "ugly visuals" stop LBP from selling around 6m? Yeah, thought so. What about LBP vita, LBP2, and LBP3? WIth such shit physics and ugly visuals how come games without shit physics and ugly visuals of the same genre haven't sold more, other than Ninty games with well established characters?

Do people look at the data before they speak? Like ever?

bolded: Maybe at first people thought this game would be similar to mario. Imagine a lot of frustrate parents that bought a console for their children trying to find a family friendly game on the store:

- Hi, do you have mario for ps3?

- Sorry, sir. We don't have it. But we just received this game! It's looks very similar

- Thank god! Put on a gift box, pls

6m confused parents? A game with incredible legs that suggest positive reception/word of mouth? Ok, if you say so.





160rmf on 12 January 2016
naruball said:
160rmf said:

bolded: Maybe at first people thought this game would be similar to mario. Imagine a lot of frustrate parents that bought a console for their children trying to find a family friendly game on the store:

- Hi, do you have mario for ps3?

- Sorry, sir. We don't have it. But we just received this game! It's looks very similar

- Thank god! Put on a gift box, pls

6m confused parents? A game with incredible legs that suggest positive reception/word of mouth? Ok, if you say so.

Did i say confused? A game that is someway similar to mario, obviously would get some attention since there's no mario available on the platform to compete. By the way, you're underestimating the number of people that have no idea about how the gaming industry works





 

 

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