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zorg1000 on 04 January 2016
curl-6 said:

It's been a year and a half since any internally developed title of significance was revealed for Wii U.

If it's going to be supported for another two years, where were the big new games at E3 2015? Why is everything coming out this year besides Zelda either a late port/localization or outsourced?

The only major Nintendo studio still tied up in Wii U development is EAD3, the rest have likely all moved on to NX.

 

Clearly Pikmin 4, 3D Mario, Retro's game, Animal Crossing, Paper Mario are all going to be revealed at E3 this year for Wii U!!!!!!!



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Gamemaster87 on 04 January 2016
Einsam_Delphin said:
Gamemaster87 said:

Dude, just look at the 3DS lineup for this year: outsourced projects and late localiaztions. Meanwhile Nintendo's internal team are still working on Wii U projects. The logical consequence: 3DS successor launches first. And that's how it will happen.

And do we know if there will be almost no Wii U Games in late 2016 and 2017? No. That's just a prediction from you with no evidence.

 


And what evidence do you have that they're still working on Wii U projects? The Wii U is in the exact same situation if not worse as the 3DS you know. The only upcoming Wii U game actually made by Nintendo is Zelda, and it's very possible it will go multiplat. 3DS got more games announced for it than the the Wii U did last year, and Pokemon Z will obviously be announced soon. If anything they're both going to be replaced even if only the handheld NX releases this year.

Zelda - competely internal

Twilight Princess HD - partly internal

Star Fox Zero - started completely internal, now partly internal

Those two Miyamoto projects - completely internal

probably Pikmin 4 - completely internal

 

So, yes. Absolutely no internal Wii U projects. Better check the facts before you write such a comment.

3DS internal projects: none.



zorg1000 on 04 January 2016
Gamemaster87 said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

 


And what evidence do you have that they're still working on Wii U projects? The Wii U is in the exact same situation if not worse as the 3DS you know. The only upcoming Wii U game actually made by Nintendo is Zelda, and it's very possible it will go multiplat. 3DS got more games announced for it than the the Wii U did last year, and Pokemon Z will obviously be announced soon. If anything they're both going to be replaced even if only the handheld NX releases this year.

Zelda - competely internal

Twilight Princess HD - partly internal

Star Fox Zero - started completely internal, now partly internal

Those two Miyamoto projects - completely internal

probably Pikmin 4 - completely internal

 

So, yes. Absolutely no internal Wii U projects. Better check the facts before you write such a comment.

3DS internal projects: none

 

Star Fox, Zelda & the Miyamoto Projects were supposed to be 2015 but got delayed, Pikmin 4 is not confirmed for Wii U, that leaves just minor involvement in an HD port. Not a single internally developed game has been announced for 1.5 years.



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curl-6 on 04 January 2016
zorg1000 said:
Gamemaster87 said:

Zelda - competely internal

Twilight Princess HD - partly internal

Star Fox Zero - started completely internal, now partly internal

Those two Miyamoto projects - completely internal

probably Pikmin 4 - completely internal

So, yes. Absolutely no internal Wii U projects. Better check the facts before you write such a comment.

3DS internal projects: none

Star Fox, Zelda & the Miyamoto Projects were supposed to be 2015 but got delayed, Pikmin 4 is not confirmed for Wii U, that leaves just minor involvement in an HD port. Not a single internally developed game has been announced for 1.5 years.

Not to mention Project Guard/Giant Robot haven't been heard from in 1.5 years themselves, and have probably either been canned or relegated to minigames in Starfox.



Nem on 04 January 2016
Soundwave said:
Nem said:

 

The fact remains is that there wasn't a single EAD/Retro/main line Nintendo studio developed game announced in 2015 for 2016 at all. It's pretty freaking obvious that the next Animal Crossing for example got moved to whatever NX and Nintendo instead chose to give the Wii U some crappy Amiibo Animal Crossing spin-off made largely be ND Cube. 

The main EAD Tokyo group that developed Mario 3D World has been free since 3D World (Captain Toad was made from the smaller EAD Tokyo group, not the main team) ... where is their next Wii U project? 

Where is Retro's next project? 

I'll bet dollars to donughts they have been working on NX for a long time now. 

Nintendo EAD released several titles in 2014 and 2015. "Not a single one" - Star Fox is co-developed with Nintendo, The legend of Zelda Wii U, Pikmin 4 both beeing worked in-house and already announced.

You do realise that games need a 2 year development cycle? You arent going to make next-generation game in one year.

You guys are making stuff up. Just stop it already. There is no proof. Your proof is: they havent announced new stuff since last E3 (but they released several titles, how interesting). You are passing co-developed games as completely outsourced. Its this amazing grasping at straws and half truths if not lies exagerated. EAD will have new games for this year i'm sure. But 4 next generation titles developed in-house? Don't make me laugh. Nintendo announce their projects 6 months before release in a regular rule. The exception was the Wii U january direct and Zelda at E3. These were efforts to spurt sales of the Wii U. Currently they have 2 games announced and one that leaked.

More straws to grab at? Not to mention that we are assuming in this theory that they don't even care about the 3DS or a new portable anymore.



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Soundwave on 04 January 2016
curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:

Star Fox, Zelda & the Miyamoto Projects were supposed to be 2015 but got delayed, Pikmin 4 is not confirmed for Wii U, that leaves just minor involvement in an HD port. Not a single internally developed game has been announced for 1.5 years.

Not to mention Project Guard/Giant Robot haven't been heard from in 1.5 years themselves, and have probably either been canned or relegated to minigames in Starfox.

I'm still waiting for Marionette for my GameCube. Well, Miyamoto?



Gamemaster87 on 04 January 2016
zorg1000 said:
Gamemaster87 said:

Zelda - competely internal

Twilight Princess HD - partly internal

Star Fox Zero - started completely internal, now partly internal

Those two Miyamoto projects - completely internal

probably Pikmin 4 - completely internal

 

So, yes. Absolutely no internal Wii U projects. Better check the facts before you write such a comment.

3DS internal projects: none

 

Star Fox, Zelda & the Miyamoto Projects were supposed to be 2015 but got delayed, Pikmin 4 is not confirmed for Wii U, that leaves just minor involvement in an HD port. Not a single internally developed game has been announced for 1.5 years.

Doesn't change the fact that Nintendo is still working on Wii U games and more specific their biggest game yet. Ressources that can't be used for NX games.





zorg1000 on 04 January 2016
curl-6 said:
zorg1000 said:

Star Fox, Zelda & the Miyamoto Projects were supposed to be 2015 but got delayed, Pikmin 4 is not confirmed for Wii U, that leaves just minor involvement in an HD port. Not a single internally developed game has been announced for 1.5 years.

Not to mention Project Guard/Giant Robot haven't been heard from in 1.5 years themselves, and have probably either been canned or relegated to minigames in Starfox.

 

Very true as well, I can't believe so many people are apposed to Wii U having a successor this year just because it hasn't reached the arbitrary 5 year cycle that all consoles have to have without realizing the 5th year of N64, GC, Wii was shit for all of them. Ya let's keep Wii U on the market for a 5th year just so it can have no games release for it!!!!!



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Soundwave on 04 January 2016
Nem said:
Soundwave said:
Nem said:

 

The fact remains is that there wasn't a single EAD/Retro/main line Nintendo studio developed game announced in 2015 for 2016 at all. It's pretty freaking obvious that the next Animal Crossing for example got moved to whatever NX and Nintendo instead chose to give the Wii U some crappy Amiibo Animal Crossing spin-off made largely be ND Cube. 

The main EAD Tokyo group that developed Mario 3D World has been free since 3D World (Captain Toad was made from the smaller EAD Tokyo group, not the main team) ... where is their next Wii U project? 

Where is Retro's next project? 

I'll bet dollars to donughts they have been working on NX for a long time now. 

Nintendo EAD released several titles in 2014 and 2015. "Not a single one" - Star Fox is co-developed with Nintendo, The legend of Zelda Wii U, Pikmin 4 both beeing worked in-house and already announced.

You do realise that games need a 2 year development cycle? You arent going to make next-generation game in one year.

You guys are making stuff up. Just stop it already. There is no proof. Your proof is: they havent announced new stuff since last E3 (but they released several titles, how interesting). You are passing co-developed games as completely outsourced. Its this amazing grasping at straws and half truths exagerated. EAD will have new games for this year i'm sure. But 4 next generation titles developed in-house? Don't make me laugh. Nintendo announce their projects 6 months before release in a regular rule. The exception was the Wii U january direct and Zelda at E3. These were efforts to spurt sales of the Wii U. Currently they have 2 games announced and one that leaked.

More straws to grab at?

No one is saying Nintendo didn't have projects for 2014 and 2015. Those games have been in development since 2012 and 2013. 

The issue is we went through all of 2015 and several events where Nintendo could have shown new internal projects for 2016 and 2017 and we got nothing new that's being made internally 100% by any of Nintendo's main teams. This is a giant red flag.

Like I said either way it doesn't matter if NX is console or portable, it still effectively means the end of primary Wii U development. You think NX portable games will somehow be easy or simple to make? 3DS development clearly killed Wii development and stalled Wii U software development too. A handheld NX more powerful than a 3DS will require even more dev resources. Take a wild guess where that leaves Wii U. 



Nem on 04 January 2016
zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

It's been a year and a half since any internally developed title of significance was revealed for Wii U.

If it's going to be supported for another two years, where were the big new games at E3 2015? Why is everything coming out this year besides Zelda either a late port/localization or outsourced?

The only major Nintendo studio still tied up in Wii U development is EAD3, the rest have likely all moved on to NX.

 

Clearly Pikmin 4, 3D Mario, Retro's game, Animal Crossing, Paper Mario are all going to be revealed at E3 this year for Wii U!!!!!!!


Careful there. You might end up eating crow.