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Ruler said:
Intrinsic said:
technically, if you have that souped up PC today, then u won't need to have a console today unless playing console exclusives. And you can spend your money on the PC games today and play them at the higher resolution and frame rate than what they would run at on current consoles.

Its not like PCs can only run emulators.

 


Will these PC games run in 10 years or being avaible on servers? i much rather have my games on the disc

You do know that PC gaming is not cloud gaming and you can have all your games on a hard drive to play them later, right?

I also find the BC argument weird since PC is the platform that has the best BC of all the platforms. It's the best place to play old games. The same way you keep the old consoles you can keep old computers or just have one computer with multiple OS to make sure even the oldest games run perfectly. Though for most games there are patches and workarounds to get them to run on current OS.

Emulators make your argument even weirder since that's the thing that especially for collectors and fans of old games makes PC the ultimate platform combining both PC and console games on a single platform.

Really, the only thing current consoles have over PC are the exclusives. And even those exclusive rights "expire" when there is a proper emulator.



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vivster said:
Ruler said:

 


Will these PC games run in 10 years or being avaible on servers? i much rather have my games on the disc

You do know that PC gaming is not cloud gaming and you can have all your games on a hard drive to play them later, right?

I also find the BC argument weird since PC is the platform that has the best BC of all the platforms. It's the best place to play old games. The same way you keep the old consoles you can keep old computers or just have one computer with multiple OS to make sure even the oldest games run perfectly. Though for most games there are patches and workarounds to get them to run on current OS.

Emulators make your argument even weirder since that's the thing that especially for collectors and fans of old games makes PC the ultimate platform combining both PC and console games on a single platform.

Really, the only thing current consoles have over PC are the exclusives. And even those exclusive rights "expire" when there is a proper emulator.

So you want to tell me i should keep giant pc towers for every version of windows? = no space and no $$$. 

If PCs BC is so great why it cant run its own pc games on every version of windows? Switching to older OSs like XP is annoying and tedious, until it boots up i can hook a new console on my TV.

PC is the ultimate platform when it comes to hardware but not when it comes to software. Its not about this box vs this box, its about games and which one is a better foundation to make a library. PC gamers say console gaming is not a good investment because youre stuck to hardware limitations, this thread is my answer to that.

Physical console games > steam games



Ruler said:
Intrinsic said:
technically, if you have that souped up PC today, then u won't need to have a console today unless playing console exclusives. And you can spend your money on the PC games today and play them at the higher resolution and frame rate than what they would run at on current consoles.

Its not like PCs can only run emulators.

 


Will these PC games run in 10 years or being avaible on servers? i much rather have my games on the disc

 

PC titles will be available long after your physical media has withered and stopped functioning. I can play games released the year I was born (1984) or even older on PC, all digital. Most of my games on GOG are around two decades old or thereabouts.
This is really a non-argument.

Edit; to the above, you don't need one PC for every version of Windows (duh), nor do you need every version of Windows (duh). This is just another non-argument. Where do you get these ideas anyway?
My modern rig runs games that played on Win 3.1 and even DOS, no problem at all.



This seems like a weird argument to me: "Don't play games looking their best now, because in 10 years you can invest in a killer rig to make your old games look half as good as the current generation of games..."

Emulation should be a last resort in most instances. The results are far from perfect, and fidelity to the original experience is a big issue because of the proprietary hardware of many classic consoles.

Not to mention, many old PC games still have community support. The mods for Halo CE (aka Halo PC) have kept a community coming back to a game that's more than a decade old.



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Ruler said:
Teeqoz said:

I don't understand the question. Are you asking if gaming on PC is irrelevant if you are using emulators? Why? What?

 


Stop twisting my words around i said pc gaming could be irrelevant when it comes to power. And i said collecting and investing money into pc vs console games, thats the topic

 

I'm not twisting your words around lol, I said I wasn't sure what you were asking. And I still don't really understand what you're going for so Imma just leave this topic.



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Mummelmann said:
Ruler said:
Intrinsic said:
technically, if you have that souped up PC today, then u won't need to have a console today unless playing console exclusives. And you can spend your money on the PC games today and play them at the higher resolution and frame rate than what they would run at on current consoles.

Its not like PCs can only run emulators.

 


Will these PC games run in 10 years or being avaible on servers? i much rather have my games on the disc

 

PC titles will be available long after your physical media has withered and stopped functioning. I can play games released the year I was born (1984) or even older on PC, all digital. Most of my games on GOG are around two decades old or thereabouts.
This is really a non-argument.

Edit; to the above, you don't need one PC for every version of Windows (duh), nor do you need every version of Windows (duh). This is just another non-argument. Where do you get these ideas anyway?
My modern rig runs games that played on Win 3.1 and even DOS, no problem at all.

 

Yeah but you have to rebuy the games again first of all. Second i am pretty sure you will be able to rebuy console titles as well in the future



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Xbox 360 is 10 years old now, PS3 is almost 10 years old. How are those emulators going?



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Ruler said:
vivster said:

You do know that PC gaming is not cloud gaming and you can have all your games on a hard drive to play them later, right?

I also find the BC argument weird since PC is the platform that has the best BC of all the platforms. It's the best place to play old games. The same way you keep the old consoles you can keep old computers or just have one computer with multiple OS to make sure even the oldest games run perfectly. Though for most games there are patches and workarounds to get them to run on current OS.

Emulators make your argument even weirder since that's the thing that especially for collectors and fans of old games makes PC the ultimate platform combining both PC and console games on a single platform.

Really, the only thing current consoles have over PC are the exclusives. And even those exclusive rights "expire" when there is a proper emulator.

So you want to tell me i should keep giant pc towers for every version of windows? = no space and no $$$. 

If PCs BC is so great why it cant run its own pc games on every version of windows? Switching to older OSs like XP is annoying and tedious, until it boots up i can hook a new console on my TV.

PC is the ultimate platform when it comes to hardware but not when it comes to software. Its not about this box vs this box, its about games and which one is a better foundation to make a library. PC gamers say console gaming is not a good investment because youre stuck to hardware limitations, this thread is my answer to that.

Physical console games > steam games

It really pains me how uninformed you are.

Not every PC has to be a tower. There are enough PC options that are smaller than any console. Also as I said if you want to have perfect compatibility then you can have a single PC with all OS installed at once. You only need to reboot to switch OS. But not even that will be necessary in the future since virtualization is advancing greatly and soon you will be able to properly play all games on virtualized platforms.

But not even that is really necessary. The amount of games that cannot be run on a current OS you can count on one hand. PC is versatile and for the vast majority of games there are patches and tools to make them run on newer OS.

My other points still stand. You say you don't have space for multiple PCs, but do you have space for all the consoles you must possess to have your precious perfect BC? I can build you a PC that is smaller than any of the current consoles that will run virtually all games of Gen 1-6.

Then you go on and pretend that steam games are not physical which is just plain wrong. Guess where they are stored on. Yes, physical hardware. The only difference is that you can store a huge number of games on a single storage device that can be backed up an infinite number of times so you will never lose a single game you ever purchased. How is that going to work with optical discs? One scratch and it's gone, no chance to backup unless you buy the same copy multiple times. Not really a good option for people who like to collect and store old games. Optical media is long outdated and inferior to all other storage mediums.

The only argument you really have is money. But money is not an argument when you're talking about collectors who spend unholy amounts of money on games and consoles anyway.

Yes you have no arguments left. Why is that? Because of your ignorance of another medium. The same reason why you are unable to properly use PCs. But what do I care, hating on something you don't understand are medieval practices and I shouldn't even talk to peasants.



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Mummelmann said:
Ruler said:
Intrinsic said:
technically, if you have that souped up PC today, then u won't need to have a console today unless playing console exclusives. And you can spend your money on the PC games today and play them at the higher resolution and frame rate than what they would run at on current consoles.

Its not like PCs can only run emulators.

 


Will these PC games run in 10 years or being avaible on servers? i much rather have my games on the disc

 

PC titles will be available long after your physical media has withered and stopped functioning. I can play games released the year I was born (1984) or even older on PC, all digital. Most of my games on GOG are around two decades old or thereabouts.
This is really a non-argument.

Edit; to the above, you don't need one PC for every version of Windows (duh), nor do you need every version of Windows (duh). This is just another non-argument. Where do you get these ideas anyway?
My modern rig runs games that played on Win 3.1 and even DOS, no problem at all.

I've been playing Red Alert 2 on Windows 7 with a 1920x1080 monitor pretty fine without any issues and I just bought a few oldies on GoG like Earth 2160, KKND Krossfire, Ultima series and even the old DOOM/Quake games and I didn't have to do loads of fiddling about at all, hell GoG does a good job at making older games work with modern OS's and even then they aren't the only ones.





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