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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 16 December 2015

Thread seems a bit late m8

This is literally the same thing that Microsoft did with Respawn to make Titanfall. Hell, Sony was talking with Kojima before his "Vacation" was even up.



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rccsetzer on 16 December 2015

The two are japanese. It is easier for them to make a deal.



kitler53 on 16 December 2015
Faelco said:

The main difference is the timing:
-Kojima leaves Konami, create his own studio, then sign a deal with Sony for console exclusivity on his first game and money/support to help him. New studio, everything to make anew, he needs financial support to make an ambitious game, or will have to go the indie/Kickstarter way. Everything is even announced and clear before the development begins and the studio itself is associated to Sony from its creation. Sony announce that the game will come to PC later. By the way, Kojima has been related with Sony for 20 years, his major franchise is heavily associated with Playstation and sells mostly on Playstation (70/30 apparently in the US, surely more than 80/20 WW), and he's a personal friend of several Sony's executives (remember his selfie with Cerny a few months ago?). We can even add that after its huge difficulties with Konami, the whole industry was afraid for Kojima and his future in gaming. 

-SE and CD create a reboot of an old franchise. SE is not that happy about the sales, but it's good enough and they launch the development of the sequel. They announce and show the game, without saying anything about a possible exclusivity. Pre-orders for all platforms begin, everything runs well: they have SE's money, TR audience, an active community, everything's fine. And then, months after that, MS announce out of nowhere that the game will finally be an Xbox exclusive for Christmas. No clarification about other platforms, even after lots of questions from the fans to SE, MS and CD. They keep the confusion for months and refuse to give answers, and announce the other releases just a few months before launch, killing it even further. Let's not forget that the franchise is also heavily associated with Playstation where its fanbase has been for 20 years, that the previous game sold at least 70/30 on the PS4, and that Phil Spencer admitted buying the exclusivity just to have his own Uncharted, because "what they developed internally didn't have the quality wanted".

Do you really fail at seeing the differences between the 2 deals and how they are handled and perceived?

all of this.

without a finacial backer kojima would have to self finance which means a 2D pixal art indie game.  at some level a big entity needs to get involved for kojima to create a AAA new IP.  If no sony then maybe someone else would have but apparently sony gave kojima what he wanted to do what he wanted which is good for everyone.

the fact the PC port was very up front is something i appreciate about sony,.. honesty where the other guy would have created FUD.





Areym on 16 December 2015

"I just feel for those who miss out"

Oh don't pretend to give damn about those people.

I don't see it as a moneyhat at all. Sony took the initiative and got into an agreement with Kojima to make a brand new console exclusive title (or possibly franchise) I wasn't butt hurt when MS announced sunset overdrive with Insomniac developing it. It's not like they are taken a well known, established franchise like TR and making it timed exclusive just cause, and Phil LITERALLY said it, they wanted to compete with Uncharted (but ND went full troll and delayed U4)

Now, if you wanna be mad at Sony for moneyhatting or stuff, be mad at Street Fighter 5, now that was fucking ruthless.

also, LEAVE KOJIMA ALONE, HE'S BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH.



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asqarkabab on 16 December 2015

Its the best way to decide which console to buy



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JRPGfan on 16 December 2015

"Gaming Exclusives Hurt the Industry"

Basically only hurts those that buy xboxs.

Which is probably one of the reasons so many buy PS4s.

It just has more games comeing out for it, and more exlusives.



bananaking21 on 16 December 2015

Good guy microsoft. Letting tomb raider release on other platforms.

Scumbag sony on the other hand are not letting this game come out on other consoles after they are funding and marketing it, and bringing this project to life



Platina on 16 December 2015

Exclusives fuel competition and that can actually be beneficial..

Competition in theory should help with quality and that is generally the case

..but there are always downsides for exclusives too. Unless the big 3 companies all merge to make one console, there will always be exclusives :p



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JinxRake on 16 December 2015

You are absolutely right.

I hereby want to petition developers to bring CS:GO, LOL, DOTA 2, every MMO ever, proper support for Team Fortress 2, strategy games and everything PC related to the consoles.
Exclusivity is a bad thing so let's get them babies on the consoles as well.



Pavolink on 16 December 2015

Eh, no? As far as I know, some exclusives has actually helped the industry. For example, Bayo2 being funded by Nintendo. Or this time Sony helping Kojima.



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