Who will be the next 'new dog' to consoles?

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Chazore on 12 November 2015

As soon as gaben can count to 3.

I'd say Steam machines since the library just grows.

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Dulfite on 12 November 2015

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Apple and Google already are, whether people want to admit it or not.

Apple TV doesn't have any exclusives, that I'm aware of? And even if they do, I can't imagine they will be numerous or of the same quality as things like Mario kart, Zelda, god of war, or Halo.

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Not really sure I could see anyone stepping into the console market the way it is now... but in fantasy land maybe someone nuts like Activision Blizzard, founded by people who worked with a Console and seen exactly how you mess it up now after joining up with King and even blizzard they have a crazy amount of gaming power under their belts.... but yeah I can't really see it happening, but if anyone could pull it off I'd think they'd have the best chance of making it a success.

Blizzard always takes it's time to make games, which is why it doesn't really have many. They focus on quality and making sure people play their games for year(s) without needing an expansion or sequel (except for wow). They simply wouldn't have the ability, or desire, to make games rapidly enough to drive a console with exclusives.

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As soon as gaben can count to 3.

I'd say Steam machines since the library just grows.

But where are the exclusives? And I'm not talking about the hundreds of greenlight games that hardly anyone buys or enjoys, but real AAA games? I'm not saying their aren't some, but not enough to drive a console. You can't win a console war with only multiplatforms for your AAA.

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Dulfite said:

Chazore said:
As soon as gaben can count to 3.

I'd say Steam machines since the library just grows.

But where are the exclusives? And I'm not talking about the hundreds of greenlight games that hardly anyone buys or enjoys, but real AAA games? I'm not saying their aren't some, but not enough to drive a console. You can't win a console war with only multiplatforms for your AAA.

Have you checked the steam store for steamOS games? Nothing of AAA standard, Steam machines are a failure before they have hit the shop floor.

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binary solo on 12 November 2015

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And how much of that huge amount of money is hardware profit? Bugger all. Console hardware is a mug's game. By all accounts over the lifetime of Xbox MS has failed to turn a profit despite cumulatively selling in excess of 100 million units. And there are hundreds of millions more devices aside from consoles and Smart TVs that play those streaming services so consoles are not so important to Netflix and the like as you suggest.

The real money in gaming is in the games, not in the hardware.

And the PS4 was already profitable a quarter after release. There is money to be made on hardware. And consoles are very important to netflix as a big chunk of their users connect via consoles.

Which only happened in part because Xb one was not doing well and Wii U was already largely irrelevant. There's only going to be one very successful console this generation. And really that's the way it usualy has been, one very successful console per generation the others are fortunate to do moderately well. 7th gen was an abberation. 8th gen is more typical. So why would anyone enter the console race when their chance of becoming the dominant hardware platform is so low? And the chance of making a buck if you're not the dominant hardware platform is almost zero.

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Google will buy Sega, Capcom, and a few other smaller companies to build up a solid line-up. Once that's done, in they come. Free online multi player if you have Google Fiber. Google Translate takes care of subtitles of foreign games.

That would be a disaster !!

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Natsu on 12 November 2015

I can see Amazon join, maybe Samsung and maybe Google but that's about all. Apple already tried but failed

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Dulfite said:

ganoncrotch said:
Not really sure I could see anyone stepping into the console market the way it is now... but in fantasy land maybe someone nuts like Activision Blizzard, founded by people who worked with a Console and seen exactly how you mess it up now after joining up with King and even blizzard they have a crazy amount of gaming power under their belts.... but yeah I can't really see it happening, but if anyone could pull it off I'd think they'd have the best chance of making it a success.

Blizzard always takes it's time to make games, which is why it doesn't really have many. They focus on quality and making sure people play their games for year(s) without needing an expansion or sequel (except for wow). They simply wouldn't have the ability, or desire, to make games rapidly enough to drive a console with exclusives.

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