In what possible way does this thread has ANYTHING to do with Xbox?

OT: I feel like people have come to expect great games with lousy optimization from these guys but I think it's unacceptable. PS4 is such a powerful machine that they should be expected to make a solid effort on it.

Well Fallout 3, New Vegas and skyrim ran shit on the ps3. If this game runs fine on the xbone we'll know that Bethesda doesn't like sony..

This. I quit Skyrim twice depite buying the PC version on sale years after it was released and it was still too buggy to enjoy. Never again. Bethesda is gonna Bethesda. 

You'd think with shitty graphics they'd invest some time ironing the bugs out but nope.

*cinematic

Geez, he just asked if both versions were poorly optimized... And I'd say it's kinda relevant if it's poorly optimized on both, imagine if you own a PS4 and an XBO, and want to decide which platform to get it on?

No need to make such a big deal out of it.

That's not the answer to game breaking bugs and poor programming. You will get better FPS but the game will still freeze and that horse you spent hours to obtain is gonna disappear regardless of how powerful your rig is.

Kids nowadays, I could pull this off just fine at 7fps :p

I actually limited the game to 18fps so it could keep up with streaming in the world ahead while flying at max speed.

I'm sure Fallout 4 will run better than that. As long as it doesn't have the random crashes that NV had, or the broken main quest. It's Bethesda, remember to save often and keep saves at decision points in case one of the paths is broken...

After the Skyrim and Fallout: New Vegas clusterfuck on PS3, this might be a bit of an improvement.

Entitled babies: all of them!

That's a real shame. I was looking forward to playing it. Good thing that I don't pre-order games anymore.