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Ali_16x on 07 November 2015

I updated the thread title to include US but the source never mentioned US but I'm assuming that since he put in it in NPD thread, he is talking about the US. But then again if this is just US and it did around 2.5 million worldwide, that 150k from UK doesn't make sense.



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jason1637 on 07 November 2015
Ali_16x said:

I updated the thread title to include US but the source never mentioned US but I'm assuming that since he put in it in NPD thread, he is talking about the US. But then again if this is just US and it did around 2.5 million worldwide, that 150k from UK doesn't make sense.


I say 2.6million including digital. More like 2million retail.



SWORDF1SH on 07 November 2015
Snoopy said:
SWORDF1SH said:


Actually it doesn't even matter. It's five days up until the Saturday. That extra Sunday will not make much difference. If it does include the Sunday, which I expect it does, that's considered a full week. So anyway, it you want to say to the end of the month, you're going to hav to stop saying half a week. It's 5 days with all the preorders and Saturday which is probably the day that most business it done.


We don't include Tuesday? I thought you don't count the day you're on when you're counting.

Ok, the fact still remains that IF they mean calendar month, it's only missing 1 day (Sunday) from any other regular week 1 software numbers. Maojority of games release Tuesday and week one is until Sunday. Sunday was Nov 1st so it would miss that day IF it they meant calendar month.

Why do you not include Tuesady launch day anyway?



SWORDF1SH on 07 November 2015
jason1637 said:
Ali_16x said:

I updated the thread title to include US but the source never mentioned US but I'm assuming that since he put in it in NPD thread, he is talking about the US. But then again if this is just US and it did around 2.5 million worldwide, that 150k from UK doesn't make sense.


I say 2.6million including digital. More like 2million retail.

If the rumoured figures are right, I agree with you. That would mean a little over 20%  digital sales.



Barozi on 07 November 2015
Aura7541 said:
Barozi said:
thread has really gone downhill.

People coming in without realising this is US only (and a rumor).

People claiming that UK = ~(Worldwide minus US) for X1 software sales.
CoD AW First Week (US 57.5%; UK 12.9%; Rest 29.6%)
Destiny First Week (US 59.4%; UK 12.7%; Rest 27.9%)
Halo MCC First Week (US 60.3%; UK 11.4%; Rest 28.3%)


People trying to act as if 10%, 20% or 30% digital sales of a game that sold about 2m retail WW (if the rumor is correct) is as insignificant as the same ratio for games that do well below 1m. (hint: even if the ratio is the same, the absolute numbers are quite different).

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If the rumor is correct, Halo 5 should be around 2.1m retail and probably around 2.5m with digital.

Btw. does that 1.4-1.5m even include the bundle?

The bundle is not included as the number allegedly comes from NPD, so standalone physical copies only.

I made some calculations based on the numbers you gave. Halo 5 might have sold between 2.8 - 3.0 million worldwide. That's still lower than how much 3, Reach, and 4 sold in the US alone.

According to which source?

VGC has all of them at about 2.4m for the first week in the US. (none of them were digitally available at launch)

Halo 3 is obviously the pinnacle of the series in terms of sales. It had an insane first week considering how early it came out in that generation.
I doubt anyone was expecting Halo 5 to beat that when even Reach and 4 couldn't with a much higher userbase. And that brings me to my second point. Was anyone expecting Halo 5 to outsell Reach or 4 in the first week when there is this huge discrepancy in userbase?

Just because Halo 5 isn't close to the monster launch that was Halo 3 doesn't mean that the numbers are low.



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Farsala on 07 November 2015
Barozi said:
Aura7541 said:
Barozi said:
thread has really gone downhill.

People coming in without realising this is US only (and a rumor).

People claiming that UK = ~(Worldwide minus US) for X1 software sales.
CoD AW First Week (US 57.5%; UK 12.9%; Rest 29.6%)
Destiny First Week (US 59.4%; UK 12.7%; Rest 27.9%)
Halo MCC First Week (US 60.3%; UK 11.4%; Rest 28.3%)


People trying to act as if 10%, 20% or 30% digital sales of a game that sold about 2m retail WW (if the rumor is correct) is as insignificant as the same ratio for games that do well below 1m. (hint: even if the ratio is the same, the absolute numbers are quite different).

_______________________________________________________________

If the rumor is correct, Halo 5 should be around 2.1m retail and probably around 2.5m with digital.

Btw. does that 1.4-1.5m even include the bundle?

The bundle is not included as the number allegedly comes from NPD, so standalone physical copies only.

I made some calculations based on the numbers you gave. Halo 5 might have sold between 2.8 - 3.0 million worldwide. That's still lower than how much 3, Reach, and 4 sold in the US alone.

According to which source?

VGC has all of them at about 2.4m for the first week in the US. (none of them were digitally available at launch)

Halo 3 is obviously the pinnacle of the series in terms of sales. It had an insane first week considering how early it came out in that generation.
I doubt anyone was expecting Halo 5 to beat that when even Reach and 4 couldn't with a much higher userbase. And that brings me to my second point. Was anyone expecting Halo 5 to outsell Reach or 4 in the first week when there is this huge discrepancy in userbase?

Just because Halo 5 isn't close to the monster launch that was Halo 3 doesn't mean that the numbers are low.


Noone is saying the numbers are low. It is low for Halo: IE Halo 3 Halo Reach and Halo 4.

People generally overestimate Digital. Especially for a game that sells massive numbers Digital % of 30% would be straight insane.

And honestly u use VGC for your SW, but then discredit them for SW. So the percentages could very well be just as untrue. (unless u cite a different source)



Aeolus451 on 07 November 2015

If that's true we'll have some fun in the NPD thread later on or rather the mods will. To be honest, that would be a really good sales number for a new IP but not for a halo game that MS was betting on heavily. I guess that's why they were spinning so much recently.



Aura7541 on 07 November 2015
Barozi said:
Aura7541 said:

The bundle is not included as the number allegedly comes from NPD, so standalone physical copies only.

I made some calculations based on the numbers you gave. Halo 5 might have sold between 2.8 - 3.0 million worldwide. That's still lower than how much 3, Reach, and 4 sold in the US alone.

According to which source?

VGC has all of them at about 2.4m for the first week in the US. (none of them were digitally available at launch)

Halo 3 is obviously the pinnacle of the series in terms of sales. It had an insane first week considering how early it came out in that generation.
I doubt anyone was expecting Halo 5 to beat that when even Reach and 4 couldn't with a much higher userbase. And that brings me to my second point. Was anyone expecting Halo 5 to outsell Reach or 4 in the first week when there is this huge discrepancy in userbase?

Just because Halo 5 isn't close to the monster launch that was Halo 3 doesn't mean that the numbers are low.

NPD numbers. Also, I said Halo 5's worldwide sales are lower than US sales of Halo 3, Reach, and 4. I didn't say they were low.



aLkaLiNE on 07 November 2015
Barozi said:
Aura7541 said:
Barozi said:
thread has really gone downhill.

People coming in without realising this is US only (and a rumor).

People claiming that UK = ~(Worldwide minus US) for X1 software sales.
CoD AW First Week (US 57.5%; UK 12.9%; Rest 29.6%)
Destiny First Week (US 59.4%; UK 12.7%; Rest 27.9%)
Halo MCC First Week (US 60.3%; UK 11.4%; Rest 28.3%)


People trying to act as if 10%, 20% or 30% digital sales of a game that sold about 2m retail WW (if the rumor is correct) is as insignificant as the same ratio for games that do well below 1m. (hint: even if the ratio is the same, the absolute numbers are quite different).

_______________________________________________________________

If the rumor is correct, Halo 5 should be around 2.1m retail and probably around 2.5m with digital.

Btw. does that 1.4-1.5m even include the bundle?

The bundle is not included as the number allegedly comes from NPD, so standalone physical copies only.

I made some calculations based on the numbers you gave. Halo 5 might have sold between 2.8 - 3.0 million worldwide. That's still lower than how much 3, Reach, and 4 sold in the US alone.

According to which source?

VGC has all of them at about 2.4m for the first week in the US. (none of them were digitally available at launch)

Halo 3 is obviously the pinnacle of the series in terms of sales. It had an insane first week considering how early it came out in that generation.
I doubt anyone was expecting Halo 5 to beat that when even Reach and 4 couldn't with a much higher userbase. And that brings me to my second point. Was anyone expecting Halo 5 to outsell Reach or 4 in the first week when there is this huge discrepancy in userbase?

Just because Halo 5 isn't close to the monster launch that was Halo 3 doesn't mean that the numbers are low.


The numbers are not low. No one is saying that they're flat out low. What people are arguing, is that the numbers for the franchise have a very noticeable decrease relative to other mainline Halo launches.

 

Before the launch, there were two vocal minorities making a prediction - the first said that Halo 5 would sell record breaking numbers or pegged their first week numbers rather high. The second group said the franchise was in decline and thought Halo 5 would be the worst performing yet. The non vocal majority probably didn't care.

 

This matters to some users on a sales site because MS needs this title to perform at a certain level to remain relevant in the console/gaming space. If Halo 5 has indeed sold a fraction of the last big Halo launch, then the possibility of MS leaving the console space becomes more likely. 



jason1637 on 07 November 2015
SWORDF1SH said:
jason1637 said:
Ali_16x said:

I updated the thread title to include US but the source never mentioned US but I'm assuming that since he put in it in NPD thread, he is talking about the US. But then again if this is just US and it did around 2.5 million worldwide, that 150k from UK doesn't make sense.


I say 2.6million including digital. More like 2million retail.

If the rumoured figures are right, I agree with you. That would mean a little over 20%  digital sales.

Yup 220k from bundles, around 140k fromt he LEs and 240k from peopel buying it digital.