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Barozi said:
Aura7541 said:
Barozi said:
thread has really gone downhill.

People coming in without realising this is US only (and a rumor).

People claiming that UK = ~(Worldwide minus US) for X1 software sales.
CoD AW First Week (US 57.5%; UK 12.9%; Rest 29.6%)
Destiny First Week (US 59.4%; UK 12.7%; Rest 27.9%)
Halo MCC First Week (US 60.3%; UK 11.4%; Rest 28.3%)


People trying to act as if 10%, 20% or 30% digital sales of a game that sold about 2m retail WW (if the rumor is correct) is as insignificant as the same ratio for games that do well below 1m. (hint: even if the ratio is the same, the absolute numbers are quite different).

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If the rumor is correct, Halo 5 should be around 2.1m retail and probably around 2.5m with digital.

Btw. does that 1.4-1.5m even include the bundle?

The bundle is not included as the number allegedly comes from NPD, so standalone physical copies only.

I made some calculations based on the numbers you gave. Halo 5 might have sold between 2.8 - 3.0 million worldwide. That's still lower than how much 3, Reach, and 4 sold in the US alone.

According to which source?

VGC has all of them at about 2.4m for the first week in the US. (none of them were digitally available at launch)

Halo 3 is obviously the pinnacle of the series in terms of sales. It had an insane first week considering how early it came out in that generation.
I doubt anyone was expecting Halo 5 to beat that when even Reach and 4 couldn't with a much higher userbase. And that brings me to my second point. Was anyone expecting Halo 5 to outsell Reach or 4 in the first week when there is this huge discrepancy in userbase?

Just because Halo 5 isn't close to the monster launch that was Halo 3 doesn't mean that the numbers are low.


The numbers are not low. No one is saying that they're flat out low. What people are arguing, is that the numbers for the franchise have a very noticeable decrease relative to other mainline Halo launches.

 

Before the launch, there were two vocal minorities making a prediction - the first said that Halo 5 would sell record breaking numbers or pegged their first week numbers rather high. The second group said the franchise was in decline and thought Halo 5 would be the worst performing yet. The non vocal majority probably didn't care.

 

This matters to some users on a sales site because MS needs this title to perform at a certain level to remain relevant in the console/gaming space. If Halo 5 has indeed sold a fraction of the last big Halo launch, then the possibility of MS leaving the console space becomes more likely.