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which one?

plants vs zombies garden warfare 62 19.56%
 
splatoon 225 70.98%
 
another game 5 1.58%
 
none of both 16 5.05%
 
both 9 2.84%
 
Total:317
Alkibiádēs said:
o_O.Q said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Yes, on its chore is a generic tps, is a well done one, it has content and visually is lovely, but it is kind of generic, specially compared.


can you explain how its generic?

It copied popular modes from other shooters and gave it a cartoony paint. It doesn't even have a campaign.


Splatoons campaign aka story mode doesnt have much to give anyways. Both pvz and splatoon is about mp. But yeah splatoon has the pro in this one



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Alkibiádēs said:
o_O.Q said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Yes, on its chore is a generic tps, is a well done one, it has content and visually is lovely, but it is kind of generic, specially compared.


can you explain how its generic?

It copied popular modes from other shooters and gave it a cartoony paint. It doesn't even have a campaign.


so according to your logic any game which has you paint an environment to win makes splatoon generic?



people still dont get it

PvZ: Generic Third Person Shooter in cartoony look

Splatoon:
- New game modes never seen before in any shooter (turf war, tower control, rainmaker, splat zones)
- Paint and inklings mechanics completly new (get invisible in own ink, faster movement in own ink etc.)
- Unique weapon types and mechanics like buckets, brushes, roller. No game ever had those types of weapons.
- Weapons have a range. They dont shoot "infinite" like on most other modern shooter. So distance between players also become very important.


Here is it why splatoon is unique and fresh and PvZ is just one of hundrets similar shooters.



o_O.Q said:
Alkibiádēs said:
o_O.Q said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Yes, on its chore is a generic tps, is a well done one, it has content and visually is lovely, but it is kind of generic, specially compared.


can you explain how its generic?

It copied popular modes from other shooters and gave it a cartoony paint. It doesn't even have a campaign.


so according to your logic any game which has you paint an environment to win makes splatoon generic?

Sadly there are no such games on the market. ;) Also the ability to hide and move faster in your paint is what makes Splatoon truly shine.

Splatoon clones will be generic yes, just like Super Smash Bros. clones are generic. Or Mario Kart clones.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Alkibiádēs said:
o_O.Q said:
Alkibiádēs said:
o_O.Q said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Yes, on its chore is a generic tps, is a well done one, it has content and visually is lovely, but it is kind of generic, specially compared.


can you explain how its generic?

It copied popular modes from other shooters and gave it a cartoony paint. It doesn't even have a campaign.


so according to your logic any game which has you paint an environment to win makes splatoon generic?

Sadly there are no such games on the market. ;) Also the ability to hide and move faster in your paint is what makes Splatoon truly shine.

Splatoon clones will be generic yes, just like Super Smash Bros. clones are generic. Or Mario Kart clones.

 

there's speculation that splatoon is actually a copy of this game : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96WZJusSqR0

and there's also the unfinished swan : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qADXXnPy4hA

so therefore splatoon is generic right?

 

" Also the ability to hide and move faster in your paint is what makes Splatoon truly shine.


i could say that the ability to grow plants at your garden is what makes plants vs zombies shine... its a pretty dumb counterpoint seemingly based on the ridiculous assumption that plants vs zombies has no original features



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o_O.Q said:
Alkibiádēs said:
o_O.Q said:
Alkibiádēs said:
o_O.Q said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Yes, on its chore is a generic tps, is a well done one, it has content and visually is lovely, but it is kind of generic, specially compared.


can you explain how its generic?

It copied popular modes from other shooters and gave it a cartoony paint. It doesn't even have a campaign.


so according to your logic any game which has you paint an environment to win makes splatoon generic?

Sadly there are no such games on the market. ;) Also the ability to hide and move faster in your paint is what makes Splatoon truly shine.

Splatoon clones will be generic yes, just like Super Smash Bros. clones are generic. Or Mario Kart clones.

 

there's speculation that splatoon is actually a copy of this game : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96WZJusSqR0

and there's also the unfinished swan : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qADXXnPy4hA

so therefore splatoon is generic right?

I knew someone was going to use an unreleased xbox indie game as an argument, it really shows how weak your argument truly is. Here's what the developer of the game actually said (not that any of you listen to reason anyway):

"EDIT (5/29/2015): As the there is unexpectedly many comments under the video and the number of views almost reached 100.000 I am adding some information about what you just saw. Minute trailer presenting prototype made by Mindware Studios. Czech Republic based studio behind Cold War, Painkiller Overdose and Dreamkiller is not longer exists. The prototype was made within six weeks by 15 people and it was playable. The basic principle is suprisingly similar more to Half Life mod called Day of Defeat then to anything else. You are just playing with paintball guns. The level is divided into sectors. Instead of capturing a flag you need to color all sector in order to capture him. By capturing all sectors to won the game. You have two teams typically with four players. Each player can chose one of four classes (painter, washer, tagger, supplier - i do not remember exact names). While painter's job is to paint as many areas as he can, washer can clean sectors painted by enemies and your team mates (when you are painted by your opponents color, you need to return to your base). Tagger can paint tags like lock tag that lock sector painted by your team, teleport tag and others. Finally supplier brings you color to battle field so you need not to return for ammo to your base. The concept is about five years old but the game itself was never finished . I do not think Nitendo copy cat this. Former game designer of Color Wars."

The game sounds nothing like Splatoon. And The Unfinished Swan? The games are nothing like each other. You guys do realize paint existed before video games, right? Splatoon innovated the shooter genre and many people are still sour over it for some reason. There's more to Splatoon than the fact it uses ink/paint you know.

Ps: there is an ink territory based minigame in Mario Party, which pre-dates both the games you mentioned. OMG Nintendo copied Nintendo!



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

The amount of nintendo shillers here is just disgusting. Trying to refute someone and use the same argument against pvz. Its just silly. Both pvz and splatoon in essence are tps shooters. And yes comparing splatoon to an old indie game that literally the same is not bad at all. And so is comparing pvz to other tps shooters with similar physics even if it is from the late nineties. Opinions aside and tastes aside. Splatoon is a very short fast paced game which is highly addictive and can br put on anytime. So do i. But to call it one of the best games. LOL. U know its silly. I know u know. Its a highly marketed average game on a console which practically has no wide variaty of competetive fps tps. Yes theres smash or mk8. But fpstps all u got is cod and splatoon. U could count mass effect 3 if u want. Splatoon therefor becomes the only better option. Prove me wrong on that



Why does it look like some people are geting angry about this?You know people can have opinions, right?They may not like a game, but that doesnt mean that the game is bad and that you cant enjoy it.Not every human on this planet will like everything that you like, becouse everyone has opinions.



Semmie said:
The amount of nintendo shillers here is just disgusting. Trying to refute someone and use the same argument against pvz. Its just silly. Both pvz and splatoon in essence are tps shooters. And yes comparing splatoon to an old indie game that literally the same is not bad at all. And so is comparing pvz to other tps shooters with similar physics even if it is from the late nineties. Opinions aside and tastes aside. Splatoon is a very short fast paced game which is highly addictive and can br put on anytime. So do i. But to call it one of the best games. LOL. U know its silly. I know u know. Its a highly marketed average game on a console which practically has no wide variaty of competetive fps tps. Yes theres smash or mk8. But fpstps all u got is cod and splatoon. U could count mass effect 3 if u want. Splatoon therefor becomes the only better option. Prove me wrong on that

I think it's pretty obvious why you made this thread and never cared for an honest answer. As if PvZ: GW would all of a sudden sell Splatoon numbers if it was on the Wii U. It wouldn't as it's just a generic third person shooter. All the modes are straight up copied from other games. It's a been there, done that game with a barely active online community. It takes ages to find a match and a lot of modes are simply dead. That's not something you want from an online only game. Once the sequel comes out early next year this game will be dead.

Splatoon has a great future ahead of itself, PvZ: GW? Not so much. Splatoon isn't highly marketed, I've seen more PS4 ads on tv yesterday than Nintendo ads for the entire year.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

jijifox said:
Why does it look like some people are geting angry about this?You know people can have opinions, right?They may not like a game, but that doesnt mean that the game is bad and that you cant enjoy it.Not every human on this planet will like everything that you like, becouse everyone has opinions.

When someone has the opinion that Splatoon looks like a PS2 game then you know you can't take them serious.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides