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I may not like this music, but I can't not call this music.

However, I'll call your taste shit and happily go along on my way. :^)
It's okay, they'll call my taste shit too, so it's all even.



 
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It's all music, but why is Metal being lumped in with the rest of that garbage?

Unless your idea of metal begins and ends with crap like Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit and Slipknot, 2 out of 3 of which aren't even real metal and the other is borderline.



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They're bad, but they're still music anyway.



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NightDragon83 said:
It's all music, but why is Metal being lumped in with the rest of that garbage?

Unless your idea of metal begins and ends with crap like Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit and Slipknot, 2 out of 3 of which aren't even real metal and the other is borderline.

I listen to bands like Entombed, Opeth, Meshuggah, Sepultura, Death, Atheist, Dismember, Cannibal Corpse, Darkthrone, Emperor, Burzum, Carcass, Deicide, Dissection, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, etc. Yet Linkin Park is still my favourite band, and I really do enjoy Limp Bizkit and Slipknot. As for whether or not they are metal, well there is no standardized regulation and classification so it all depends on the individual.



LipeJJ said:
They're bad, but they're still music anyway.

Metal is not bad, but I can understand why it can be hard to get into for people.



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VGPolyglot said:
LipeJJ said:
They're bad, but they're still music anyway.

Metal is not bad, but I can understand why it can be hard to get into for people.


It's especially hard for me to get into it, since my father forced me to play the guitar (and later the electric guitar) when I was a kid to play those kind of songs. Luckly later I managed to get my own grand piano and learn/play the classical stuff I like!



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They are noise to me xD
just kiding, its music ofcourse but i dont like it.



 

Yes it is...
It has a beat, rhythm, melodies, notes... What about it makes it NOT music to you?



padib said:
Toxy said:
Of course it is music. Even Techno is music despite the fact it typically does not contain live instrumentation, it still has rhythms, themes, lyrics etc.
Music is a form of entertainment.

Something as technical as Heavy Metal is definitely music, some of the best music is arguably made by Metal bands. Whether you like a genre or not does not make it 'Not Music'. Metal has some of the most technical time signatures in songs. Progressive rock/alternative bands are known for technical time signatures and crafting music that is not cliched.

Despite the simplicity of pop music, and the cheesy lyrics, it is still music.

If you are not well versed in the music scene, do not even discuss such things, it makes you looks silly. I do not mean to sound harsh, but seriously, your opinion does not determine what is and is not music. Music is music by the definition of being music, despite different tastes people may have.

@bold. I think that's a rude things to say. People have their opinions, whether they play music or not, studied it or not.

That's what forums are for.

So if people look silly for stating their opinions, then so be it, but at least they said what they were thinking and if they are wrong, there's nothing wrong with that.

It is not an opinion to say something is not music, when in fact by definition it is music. To say that a movie is not a movie is wrong, plain and simple. Hiding behind the guise of "but it is just my/their opinion" is simply a way of using the term 'opinion' as a means to avoid admitting that one is wrong.

 

I apologise if I was rude, however, it is what it is. Having an 'opinion' does not stop you from being wrong. In fact in this case, the word 'opinion' is being misused. You can't look at a bike and say that in your opinion it is a car. 



Toxy said:

It is not an opinion to say something is not music, when in fact by definition it is music. To say that a movie is not a movie is wrong, plain and simple. Hiding behind the guise of "but it is just my/their opinion" is simply a way of using the term 'opinion' as a means to avoid admitting that one is wrong.

 

I apologise if I was rude, however, it is what it is. Having an 'opinion' does not stop you from being wrong. In fact in this case, the word 'opinion' is being misused. You can't look at a bike and say that in your opinion it is a car. 

You pretend to hold the rights to the definition of music, while a quick google search offers a very different definition of music than what you're presuming. My personal post however is much closer to the first definition of music as found on google. 

mu·sic

ˈmyo͞ozik/Submit

noun

1.vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.

 "couples were dancing to the music"

 

  • the art or science of composing or performing music.

 

 noun: music

"he devoted his life to music"

 

  •  a sound perceived as pleasingly harmonious.

 

"the background music of softly lapping water"

 

As I said, in visual art, if I shit on a blank canvas, it is not art in any sense of the term. The same could be said about screaming in certain cases.