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Toxy on 21 October 2015
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padib said:
Toxy said:

It is not an opinion to say something is not music, when in fact by definition it is music. To say that a movie is not a movie is wrong, plain and simple. Hiding behind the guise of "but it is just my/their opinion" is simply a way of using the term 'opinion' as a means to avoid admitting that one is wrong.

 

I apologise if I was rude, however, it is what it is. Having an 'opinion' does not stop you from being wrong. In fact in this case, the word 'opinion' is being misused. You can't look at a bike and say that in your opinion it is a car. 

You pretend to hold the rights to the definition of music, while a quick google search offers a very different definition of music than what you're presuming. My personal post however is much closer to the first definition of music as found on google. 

mu·sic

ˈmyo͞ozik/Submit

noun

1.vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.

 "couples were dancing to the music"

 

  • the art or science of composing or performing music.

 

 noun: music

"he devoted his life to music"

 

  •  a sound perceived as pleasingly harmonious.

 

"the background music of softly lapping water"

 

As I said, in visual art, if I shit on a blank canvas, it is not art in any sense of the term. The same could be said about screaming in certain cases.

 

Music "That one of the fine arts which is concerned with the combination of sounds with a view to beauty of form and the expression of thought or feeling" - Oxford University Dictionary

Okay, so does Metal, Techno, and Screamo music contain a combination of sounds and forms expression/thought/feeling? Check. 

 

A quick summary: Heavy metal and its subgenres are another genre of rock music It was developed in the late 1960s and early 1970s. It contains many roots with blues rock and psychedellic rock and is known for loud sound. - Weinstein 2000.

 

I rather go by the information that I have supplied, at least I have provided sources. 

And going by your definition "the art or science of composing or performing music."

Artists that play these different genres of music 'perform' and they 'compose' their songs in order to craft music.

You sir, are grasping at straws and have invalidated yourself with the definitions that you have provided in order to disprove me... because I was rude? Eh.

 

It does not matter what your opinion is. Music is music. Fact. I am not trying to assert any authority over what is and is not music. That is what you and Spurgeon are doing. 

 

Just because you have some sort of bias or you dislike something, does not make that thing 'not music'. 

 

You also say I am presuming? Presuming what? That music is music? That makes zero sense and does not even deserve a proper response.