Yes, but times are changed, today doesn't work any more to reveal console at E3 and launch it on end of next year. Just look how MS and Sony managed revealing and launch of PS4/Xbox1, both are revele before or at E3 and released in Q4. Wii U is their worst selling console ever, they cant be on market 2 whole years more. You forgetting that Xbox also had 4 year life, and that didn't stopped no one to buy Xbox 360 and at end Xbox 360 3-4 times better than Xbox.

In 2017 will probably be even worse for that manner. Nintendo has two option, to release new console fastest they can or to wait around 2019. when MS/Sony will probably release new consoles, and Nintendo certainly can't wait so long with Wii U, they cant wait even 2017. So they need to release new console soon they prepare good launch and 1st year lineup, and they can achieve that at end of next year.

I dont expect that NX will have same support like PS4/X1, but certainly much better than Wii U has, probably similar to GC support or even better.

Probably they could wait 2017, but why would they, quiacer they relase new hardware they will make more money.

What happens if Nintendo launch NX in 2017 and it bombs in hardware sales!? I dont see any difference if NX bombs in 2016, 2016, 2018 or in 2019.

Well, if I remember correctly the xbox released later in that gen. That explains the short life span. The 360 mirrored the PS3's on lifespan and not nintendo's. The xbox one and PS4 will probably be around just as long. It's safe to say that all 3 make the bulk of their money off of software and not hardware in the video game business. 

Launching a home console is a huge investment of resources for any of them. Also if you include the simultaneous development of multiple launch titles and the marketing alone, the costs make it a big gamble. I'm sure that nintendo doesn't want a repeat of the wii u with the NX. Choosing a good launch period is essential to that and it would be wise to not rush.

Nintendo certainly can wait til 2017, though. It can make plenty of money off of the wii u software til then. It should release zelda U before then and do a port for the NX later. There's no reason to launch NX in a highly competitive 2016 versus launching it later on. It wouldn't hurt for nintendo to put some real effort to cultivate it's relationships with third parties for NX. 

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with "not all Nintendo fans have the same tastes". Well obviously not. No Wii U game has sold 10M+ copies has it? But there are the people that will always buy Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Zelda, and Mario every single generation for example. There are also people that will always buy Paper Mario and Animal Crossing every generation. Those people are buying the latest of those series regardless of what Nintendo does and will buy Nintendo consoles every generation just to play the new version of those games.

It's hilarious that Nintendo fans keep grouping home consoles and handhelds together arbitrarily to mask the fact that, aside from the Wii and 3DS every single home console sold less than its predecessor, and every single handheld sold less than its predecessor. That's are the hard facts. No amount of convenient grouping to skew that data means anything. if you want to pretend that Nintendo sales haven't declined over the years then it's no skin off my back.

To those who may be unfamiliar:
NES+Famicom: 61M
SNES+Super Famicom:  49M
N64: 33M
Gamecube: 22M
Wii: 101M
Wii U:  10M (might end up at 15 M)

Now to anyone with any bit of common sense, that is a clear and obvious downward trend with an outlier in the Wii. However, to some diehard Nintendo fans that is consistent sales. You can be the judge.

But again, Nintendo is only doomed if continue to only cater to Nintendo fans. It really comes down to this primary question: How is the NX going to appeal to a demographic enought to buy an NX which had little to no interest in buying the Wii U? Where are these additional sales going to come from? Who is going to buy the NX besides Nintendo fans?

Will the NX home do better than the Wii U? Well i really hope so, because if not, Nintendo is probably out of the home console game and that's bad for everyone. Will it do better than say, the N64? I really doubt it at this point.

Regardless, point is that Xbox had life of 4 years, same like probably Wii U will have, nothing change if its beginning or late in generation.

I agree, launch it's very expensive, but almost every console has good launch, even Wii U with all mistake that Nintendo made (terrible name, bad and confusing marketing, week launch tiles, high price...) had pretty good launch, but problems for Wii U started after holiday season in January. I am also sure that Nintendo doesn't want to repeat those mistakes and they will prepare good launch, but point is that they can prepare launch for Q4 2016.

I dont see what exactly will be different in 2017. in comparison with 2016!? In 2017. there will also be strong competitive but probably with lower prices of PS4/X1 than in 2016. Only difference is that Nintendo will lose whole year with bad sales with WiiU/3DS, the sooner they release new hardware better, off course if they can prepare launch on time, but all indicates they can and that we will have new Nintendo hardware next year. Nintendo now having much better relationship and approach in comparison with Wii U launch, just look how great they treating Indies.

This is interesting. If the NX comes in considerably more powerful that PS4, and that's a big if you might see a situation where Nintendo has clearly higher spec hardware at a time when Sony and Microsoft are less than 3 years into a console cycle. Now I know the last gen of consoles ran longer than usual (7-8 years) but Sony and Microsoft would still be at least 2 years off another console when NX is released, maybe even 3-4 years.
If this happened and Nintendo made some killer games coupled with 3rd party support then Nintendo might see a change in their fortunes.

The ps4 and the Xbox one also didn't release to heavy competition

It feels like this time last year, I was the only person here who believed the NX would come in 2016. It was obvious to me the moment Iwata said that their mid-term strategy was wouldn't take effect until two years later, with everything pertaining to that plan implying a console launch.

Glad the majority agrees with me now. They definitely didn't last year.

Don't be so humble. There were already some people that believed that, including me. Zelda HD delay just sealed the deal.

I'm not at all being humble.

Me neither. February 1st 2014

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