JWeinCom said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
I'm commenting on how generalizations, like power levels, are bullshit. I also say I'm Christian not to use the victim(persecution) card, I'm black so that one is far more effective, its rather a direct response to some of the claims in this thread that the religious and specifically the muslims can't live in a democratic society. My Grandmother and basically half of the Nigerian Community I know in Houston is Muslims and the other half is Christian.
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There is precisely one person in this thread who said religious people in general can't live in a democratic society. As for the people who are saying that muslims cannot integrate into society, what is their religious background? I'm usually involved in the threads that are against religion, and I haven't seen them posting there. Can you back up the claim that the people saying Muslims can't integrate into society are the same ones saying that religious people are what's wrong with the world? Because, if you cannot, then you are making a generalization about atheists and secularists that I resent.
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You are making a lot of assumptions here.
I never commented on the religious background of those who said muslims cannot integrate into society, b/c its irrelevant.
I also never said that those saying muslims can't integrate into society are the same people saying whats religious people are whats wrong with this world. Rather, I'm pointing out that the bigotry isn't tied to religious intolerance, or any cultural or religious group at all, and using this thread as an example.
So no, I am not making generalizations about atheists or secularists, I never mentioned them, never brought them into the discussion, I didn't even consider them, you did.
And I'm not responding to the one person talking about religious people can't live in a democratic society, I'm talking about everyone who shares that similar anti-muslim, racist, and or xenophobic sentiment i.e us vs them. Notice how I am describing on their own "qualities" group of people, but I am not making baseless generalizations about them like oh they must be fat white males who live with there mothers or some crap like that.