What are you even talkig about? 

Game boy started with the 4th generation (snes), and sold about half of its sales until the N64 launch, then it sold the other half until it died just in the beggining of the 6th generation, it was a a console that lasted 2 entire generations and even had a different version on 1998 (GBC) with a ton of exclusive games that you cant play on GB, it was more than a simple update, for Nintendo the total numbers of every generation was like the list I made, and even if you don´t want to count GB as a 2 generation handheld (that it was) then the list is like this:

3th gen: 62m
4th gen: 169m 
5th gen: 33m 
6th gen: 103m
7th gen: 250m
8th gen projection: 87m

If you want to count GBC as the 5th generation handheld then the list is:

3th gen: 62m
4th gen: 139m 
5th gen: 63m 
6th gen: 103m
7th gen: 250m
8th gen projection: 87m

You are the one that said NX will continue the falling trend if it doesn´t sell more than the homeconsole and handheld console combined, but where is that trend you were talking about all this time in any of those lists where handhelds and homeconsoles are combined??

                                                                     

Indeed, but at least it stops the argument from continuing.

I didn't have any intention of doing that but fair enough.

First off, please let me clarify - the only reason I lumped NX together is because apparently it will be a unified platform, which means it will be replacing the 3DS and the Wii U simultaneously, putting it in a unique circumstance. If the NX turns out to only be a home console or handheld then of course it would make no sense to combine the sales for comparison.

Let me construct you a timeline on why this only applies to the NX because apparently this must be hard for you to visualize:

Oct 1985 - NES
Apr 1989 - Gameboy
Aug 1991 - SNES

Sep 1996 - N64
Nov 1998 - Gameboy Color (if you want to separate that)
Mar 2001 - Gameboy Advance
Nov 2001 - Gamecube
Nov 2004 - Nintendo DS
Nov 2006 - Wii
Nov 2011 - 3DS
Nov 2012 - Wii U

Bold are handhelds.

So tell me:
Is the Gameboy part of the NES Generation, the SNES or the N64 Generation? it was the flagship handheld during all three.
Is the Gamebou Color part of the N64 Generation? If so does that mean both the Gameboy and the Gameboy color sales count towards this generation? How did you decide that?
Is the Gamboy Advance part of the N64 Generation as Well? Or is it part of the Gamecube generation? It was the flagship handheld for both, but it does line up better with the life of the Gamecube, except for the parts of the Gamecube's life where it was replaced by the DS.
Is the  Nintendo DS part of the Gamecube Generation, or the Wii Generation? It was the flagship handheld offered by Nintendo for both almost equally.
How about the 3DS? The Wii U wouldn't be around for another year after the 3DS came out.

See it's not nearly as clear cut as you're making it out to be. The handheld and home console generations simply do not line up like you want to pretend it does.

I think this image is fitting:

    this is the most pathetic argument until now, so if the hanheld is not exactly released the same year Nintendo release the new homeconsole is on a limbo and it doesn´t count for any generation hahahaha, what a way to try to spin reality again, let´s make another list, shall we??

1983 - Nes (First 3th gen console)
1985 - Master System (so it was not released the same year as NES?? 2 YEARS LATER??? OMG what generation is this?? the 3.5 generation?? X,D)

1987 - Turbographx 16/PC Engine (the first 4th generation homeconsole)
1988 - Mega Drive/ Genesis (OMG! a year later!!!! what generation is this??)
1989 - Game Boy (On a limbo because reasons)
1990 - Neo Geo (2 YEARS LATER???)
1990 - Super Nintendo (THIS SHOULD BE ALREADY THE 5TH GEN DOESNT IT??)

1993 - Amiga CD (first 5th gen homeconsole)
1993 - Atari Jaguar
1994 - Playstation (totally not a 5th gen console because it was released 1 year later....)
1995 - Sega Saturn
1996 - Nintendo 64 ( 5.5 gen?? is 3 years later!!!!!!)

1999 - Dreamcast (first 6th generation homeconsole)
2000 - PS2
2001 - Game Boy Advance ( I wonder where this console fits better.... on the 6th generation? MAYBE???)
2001 - GameCube (2 years later!! It should not bve a 6th gen console at all, doesn´t it?)
2001 - XBOX

2004 - PSP
2004 - Nintendo DS (both released 5 years after Dreamcast but only a few months after X360, what gen are they, OMG!!! Oh wait, they are oficially considered 7th gen consoles because... ALL THEIR SALES AND INFLUENCE WAS IN THE 7TH GEN)
2005 - X360 (first 7th homeconsole)
2006- Ps3
2006 - Wii (one year later OMG)

2011 - PSVITA
2011- N3DS (Oh if they are released 5 years after the X360 and only  months before the WiiU... what gen must be this?? WHAT A DILEMA! except for the fact that everyone counts it as the 8th gen because is so freaking obvious that it hurts)
2012 - WiiU (first 8th gen homeconsole)
2013 - Ps4
2013 - XBO (totally not 8th gen consoles, one year later yo)



Give a freaking break, are you telling me that a console should be released on a specific month of the year to be considered for one gen or another one? Now that´s your ultimate attempt to spin reality, but this time is specially sad. In EVERYWHERE handhelds consoles are counted as a part of every generation, and you go so far in your attempt to spin things that now you are trying to freaking deny this. Pathetic.

It's great to see Nintendo successfully explore new territory with Super Mario Maker and Splatoon. I hope their sales keep up until the holiday period.

So the Gameboy is a part of Gen 3, Gen 4 and Gen 5? If so, which part of the gameboy's sales do you attribute to each generation? You've just arbitraily decided that his handheld belongs to this generation, and that handheld belongs to that generation because it fits your argument. Great Job. Whatever it takes to help you sleep at night.

good news.... got there faster then expected!

How in he hell is gonna be GB part of the 3rd generation when the 4th generation had already started on 1987 with the PC Engine??

Gameboy was selling through all the 4th gen and the 5th gen, being the market leader of hanheld consoles until the release of Game Boy Advance that was released already in the 6th generation, so as I told you in the first place, GB is a 4th and a 5th gen console, now I gave you 3 options :

 1. Counting GB as a 4th and 5th gen consoles (this is the correct one)

3th gen: 62m
4th gen: 109m 
5th gen: 92m 
6th gen: 103m
7th gen: 250m
8th gen projection: 87m

2. counting it as only a 4th gen console despite being the handheld leader of the market through all the 5th gen.

3th gen: 62m
4th gen: 169m 
5th gen: 33m 
6th gen: 103m
7th gen: 250m
8th gen projection: 87m


 3. Counting GBC as a 5th gen handheld despite the fact that everybody counts it as a new model of the original GB, something that could have some debate but overall is the most incorrect one.

3th gen: 62m
4th gen: 139m 
5th gen: 63m 
6th gen: 103m
7th gen: 250m
8th gen projection: 87m

The point is, IN ANY OF THOSE POSSIBLE COMBINATIONS you see absolutely no descendent trend for Nintendo consoles sales when you combine hanhelds consoles and homeconsoles, and you said NX has to sell more than the homeconsole and hanheld consoles combined in order to not continue the fall trend of Nintendo hardware sales, but the thing is, WHERE IS THAT TREND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN ANY OF THOSE LISTS?? No place to be found, so your argument is invalid and what you have been trying to do this time, as I said to you in the first post, is SPINNING REALITY.

Going by whatever scenario you want is irrelvant, because it's contrived to combine the sales of handhelds anc consoles in the first place. Combining the devices and unifying them as a generation to minimize the obviousness of Nintendo's decline is simply fanboyism - a way of looking at the numbers to hide the irrefutable truth - Nintendo as a video game console maker is on the decline, and it has been for decades.

With the exception of the Wii and the DS,  the fact of the matter is is that every single Nintendo console's successor has sold less the one before it. That's not spin. That's a fact. There is no indication that the success Nintendo found in the Wii and DS will be replicated in the future. Nintendo did not manage to carry any momentum at all from those devices and went back to selling precisely the amount of consoles and handhelds many industry leaders expected them to, and there is no reason to think that the next generation will buck that trend either. Now of course no one really expected the success of the Wii either, but something tells me the casual crowd aren't coming back to Nintendo for NX any more than they flocked to buy the Gamecube or GBA, are they?

You can throw little fanboy tantrums all you want, and pretend Nintendo is selling just as many video game consoles as it ever was, but that does not change the fact that if the NX performs just as well as many expect it to (if it is a combined platform, less than 50-60 million world-wide combined - less than 10M for NX Home, 40-50M for NX portable) Nintendo is at the very least, probably done making home video game consoles, and maybe out of the hardware game all together.

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