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Are Handhelds = Consoles?

Yes 184 50.14%
 
No 126 34.33%
 
Its more complicated than that 37 10.08%
 
Who gives a shit! 20 5.45%
 
Total:367

Yes it is but I think the real question should be if all them are part of a single console wars or in other word, if home console compete directly with handheld console?IMO no. I dont think vita and wii u arent selling well due to ps4 and 3ds selling well. They would have failed regardless. One version succeding, doesnt necesarily translate in the other failing and viceversa.



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This thing only works with N64 cartridges, plays like a N64, but has a small difference. You don't need to buy a separate display to play it and it has its own energy supply so you can play it everywhere without a external energy font

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We reap what we sow

160rmf said:


define this


Da fuck is that?!?! LOL



AEGRO said:
160rmf said:


Da fuck is that?!?! LOL

I don't know, tell me

imagine that 3ds is like this, but more powerful, +1 display and with exclusive physical media



 

 

We reap what we sow

AEGRO said:
160rmf said:


define this


Da fuck is that?!?! LOL

A really good way to make your gamepad fugly as hell lol.



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Valdath said:
AEGRO said:


Da fuck is that?!?! LOL

A really good way to make your gamepad fugly as hell lol.


If that is even possible! hahaha



Rogerioandrade said:
spemanig said:

Yes. The whole debate is stupid. The only difference is size and that one comes with its own screen bundled in. The games aren't even fucking different anymore.

It's not "console or handheld," it's home console or handheld console. The only differentiating factor is portability.


I also think that this is just stupid and this "debate" is just a fanboy thing.

You know, those who can´t accept that the 3ds is the console with highest total sales this generation, even being a portable console, just because its manufacturer is not their favorite brand.

This is just....lame, at least.

While I agree that both are consoles, I think they are sperated for more than just  "fanboy" reasons as you stated. And then went as far as to say the "ou know, those who can´t accept that the 3ds is the console with highest total sales this generation, even being a portable console, just because its manufacturer is not their favorite brand." even though NO ONE is denying that nor not accepting it. It is quite well known that the 3DS is the console with the highest sales this generation.

People just acknowledge that the PS4 has the highest HOME console sales this generation. While the 3DS has the highest HANDHELD console sales this generation. Heck I coul deven be like you and say there are people who can't accept that the PS4 is number 1 right now so because their home console maker of choice isn't winning they have to switch it up.

But why do that? When it is silly and pointless, all of the companies even seperate the home console and handheld console sales. Even though they are all made to bring them profit they still seperate them. They don't just have "console" sales and that is it. They are different products even in the eys of the creators hence the reason they seperate them...



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TheBlackNaruto said:

While I agree that both are consoles, I think they are sperated for more than just  "fanboy" reasons as you stated. And then went as far as to say the "ou know, those who can´t accept that the 3ds is the console with highest total sales this generation, even being a portable console, just because its manufacturer is not their favorite brand." even though NO ONE is denying that nor not accepting it. It is quite well known that the 3DS is the console with the highest sales this generation.

People just acknowledge that the PS4 has the highest HOME console sales this generation. While the 3DS has the highest HANDHELD console sales this generation. Heck I coul deven be like you and say there are people who can't accept that the PS4 is number 1 right now so because their home console maker of choice isn't winning they have to switch it up.

But why do that? When it is silly and pointless, all of the companies even seperate the home console and handheld console sales. Even though they are all made to bring them profit they still seperate them. They don't just have "console" sales and that is it. They are different products even in the eys of the creators hence the reason they seperate them...


I think what he is getting at is that the separation is becoming arbitrary. Like I said, we're getting to the point where handhelds are getting the same games as consoles. Like literal ports. It's becoming silly to talk about game sales and segregate the handheld and console sales as if they aren't part of the same market. They are. Everyone knows that handhelds and home consoles have a difference. That's not even up for debate, but when someone talks about someone being the "uncontested kind of console sales," and then tries to specify that they only meant home console sales as if the two types of products don't clearly bleed into each other, it becomes silly.

They maybe different physically, but at a market and company level, they are exactly the same. It's silly to say "Sony are killing it this generation" or "Nintendo are killing it generation" when half of both of their gaming divisions are some of the biggest financial failures in the gaming industry. "Oh, but that's just their handheld/yeah, but the 3DS is killing it" doesn't cut it for either company. The only people really deviding these as more than merely varied portability of the same type of product are fans. Nintendo's literally creating an entire platform around squashing this.



spemanig said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

While I agree that both are consoles, I think they are sperated for more than just  "fanboy" reasons as you stated. And then went as far as to say the "ou know, those who can´t accept that the 3ds is the console with highest total sales this generation, even being a portable console, just because its manufacturer is not their favorite brand." even though NO ONE is denying that nor not accepting it. It is quite well known that the 3DS is the console with the highest sales this generation.

People just acknowledge that the PS4 has the highest HOME console sales this generation. While the 3DS has the highest HANDHELD console sales this generation. Heck I coul deven be like you and say there are people who can't accept that the PS4 is number 1 right now so because their home console maker of choice isn't winning they have to switch it up.

But why do that? When it is silly and pointless, all of the companies even seperate the home console and handheld console sales. Even though they are all made to bring them profit they still seperate them. They don't just have "console" sales and that is it. They are different products even in the eys of the creators hence the reason they seperate them...


I think what he is getting at is that the separation is becoming arbitrary. Like I said, we're getting to the point where handhelds are getting the same games as consoles. Like literal ports. It's becoming silly to talk about game sales and segregate the handheld and console sales as if they aren't part of the same market. They are. Everyone knows that handhelds and home consoles have a difference. That's not even up for debate, but when someone talks about someone being the "uncontested kind of console sales," and then tries to specify that they only meant home console sales as if the two types of products don't clearly bleed into each other, it becomes silly.

They maybe different physically, but at a market and company level, they are exactly the same. It's silly to say "Sony are killing it this generation" or "Nintendo are killing it generation" when half of both of their gaming divisions are some of the biggest financial failures in the gaming industry. "Oh, but that's just their handheld/yeah, but the 3DS is killing it" doesn't cut it for either company. The only people really deviding these as more than merely varied portability of the same type of product are fans. Nintendo's literally creating an entire platform around squashing this.

Very sensible respone and I agree and disagree. Market and company level they are still the same yet different. I view it the same as say Nissian. The Altima and the Armada are both vechicles but they are looked at differently and I can't think of a good word so I will say "advertised" differently.  They both serve the same purpose getting you from one point to another but are marketed differently. I kind of view it the same way with teh console market and even the everyday consumer sees them differently. 

But yes NIN is trying to erase that line and they are getting very close to doing it.



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Of course! The whole argument about it is so stupid. The term "console" itself is an electronic or mechanical equipment. I wouldn't even be surprised if some dense fanboys only think of console as strictly a video game console.