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binary solo on 09 September 2015
FunFan said:

Well folks, cat's out of the bag. Been that way for a while, but lets pretend this is new.

As the PS3 becomes older and irrelevant, I expect more developers and engineers to come out and be honest about this. Of course, Sony fanboys will use anything to disregard their claims. But the biggest proof that the Cell was a questionable solution for gaming is already out there. Sony moved away from it, even when the Cell architecture has evolved a lot from what the PS3 offered.

Of course, fanboys are gonna fanboy, anyway. Hail Saint SONY, savior of the industry!

I don't think you got enough "fanboys" in that post. You need to try harder.



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melbye on 09 September 2015

I am sure CELL sucked, but then again so does DICE



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 09 September 2015

Twitter has definitely retarded some things ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 



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Michelasso on 09 September 2015

The problem wasn't the Cell CPU per se. It was the SDK. The debugger was a mess and also the profiler wasn't good. The same thing happened to the XBone at launch, where the SDK was half baked and so many games were running at 720/792p. Indeed in the second half of the generation many games were running better on PS3 than XBone. Of which the latter was limited by the DVD only architecture and that in my book retarded the industry.

Just look what happened to FFXIII and its sequels. The first was developed already for PS3 and had to avoid disc swapping once ported to the X360. Which is probably the reason why it was so linear (at least on PS3 it kept the looks -even at 1080p on cutscenes!! - being one of the best looking multiplatform games on PS3). The other two started the production on both platforms and so had to be squeezed to fit a single DVD. Few cutscenes and lower quality



walsufnir on 09 September 2015
ArchangelMadzz said:
walsufnir said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
That's why 360 had all the technically superior exclusives.. Right?

Cell was a bad idea and Sony paid the price but these guys are blowing it way out of proportion. nd mastered the cell after their first game and making the switch to PS4 hasn't been half arsed in anyway uncharted 4 is the most impressive game we've seen.

 

Hardware alone isn't what makes games look better than other games.

Obviously developer skill and art direction and design is an factor. But PS3 Exclusives consistently were more technically impressive than 360 exclusives.


While this is totally subjective, you forgot one important thing that many people forget: money/budget.



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ArchangelMadzz on 09 September 2015
walsufnir said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Obviously developer skill and art direction and design is an factor. But PS3 Exclusives consistently were more technically impressive than 360 exclusives.


While this is totally subjective, you forgot one important thing that many people forget: money/budget.

Sony more money/budget than Microsoft confirmed. 

Edit: Halo 4 cost $40 million. Uncharted 2 and 3 combined cost $45 million (according to google)



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sergiodaly on 09 September 2015

with the industry moving to GPGPU and using ACEs on PS4 and XB one, the cell was a nice way to get ready for this. in a way the SPUs had a similar computing behavior to the ACEs used this generation. The different memory pools were the thing that made it so hard to use the CELL to help graphics and advanced physics IMO. Don't we have more skilled devs now because of what they learned from the CELL? or all that knowledge is useless now?

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walsufnir on 09 September 2015
ArchangelMadzz said:
walsufnir said:


While this is totally subjective, you forgot one important thing that many people forget: money/budget.

Sony more money/budget than Microsoft confirmed. 


Nope but Sony spends more money in first party projects than MS does. They hire the best people in the industry, they have longer cycles and more studios than MS. You are of course free to argue this.



ArchangelMadzz on 09 September 2015
walsufnir said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Sony more money/budget than Microsoft confirmed. 


Nope but Sony spends more money in first party projects than MS does. They hire the best people in the industry, they have longer cycles and more studios than MS. You are of course free to argue this.


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d21lewis on 09 September 2015

He meant "retardant". It made the industry resist fire.