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Tachikoma on 05 September 2015
Mnementh said:
Tachikoma said:
Mnementh said:

To cite pokoko in this very thread: "It will probably sway a few people here and there who need to sell their old console to get a new one but don't want to sell their games. Everything positive adds to the collective appeal of something you spend that much money to buy."

Additionally it may be more convenient to play your old games on your new console. The new console is probably properly attached to your current TV, the older ones may  be removed to the attic. Or worse, the older ones don't have HDMI yet, while the new one has. Little conveniences like that can have a big effect.

I disagree, playing ps1 on a crt tv with composite cables looks better than playing ps1 on a ps3 via BC, because that's how it was intended, HDMI gives the ps1 resolution nowhere to hide its limitations.

 

Just something about using the proper hardware, too.

Bolded underlined: Is your house filled to the roof with old tech?

Pretty much, I have 40+ consoles.



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asqarkabab on 05 September 2015

Its a great Addition and i congratz MS for it great feature



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 05 September 2015
OnlyForDisplay said:

Backwards compatibility is always a good thing. The issue lies in what type of backwards compatibility. For me, Hardware emulation is the far superior choice. Software emulation is great, but not every game you have ever wanted to play is guaranteed.

Why emulate, when you can play it on PC



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 05 September 2015
Tachikoma said:
Mnementh said:
Tachikoma said:
Mnementh said:

To cite pokoko in this very thread: "It will probably sway a few people here and there who need to sell their old console to get a new one but don't want to sell their games. Everything positive adds to the collective appeal of something you spend that much money to buy."

Additionally it may be more convenient to play your old games on your new console. The new console is probably properly attached to your current TV, the older ones may  be removed to the attic. Or worse, the older ones don't have HDMI yet, while the new one has. Little conveniences like that can have a big effect.

I disagree, playing ps1 on a crt tv with composite cables looks better than playing ps1 on a ps3 via BC, because that's how it was intended, HDMI gives the ps1 resolution nowhere to hide its limitations.

 

Just something about using the proper hardware, too.

Bolded underlined: Is your house filled to the roof with old tech?

Pretty much, I have 40+ consoles.

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Scisca on 05 September 2015

To me BC on Xbone is a nice addition and actually influences my future purchases I wanted to get a dirts cheap X360 just to play the handful exclusives it has. At this point I'm not going to get it, but instead will go for an Xbone. I won't buy a single multiplat for it, will just use it to play X360 and Xbone exclusives, which actually makes a for a decent library, probably equal to the Wii U exclusive library.

Still, I obviously won't pay full price for such a console. I'm only going to buy it when MS cuts the price to under 250 Euro or gives me the Xbone+Samsung TV for 500 Euro deal. I'd jump on that second one any day.



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Landguy on 05 September 2015
Scisca said:
To me BC on Xbone is a nice addition and actually influences my future purchases I wanted to get a dirts cheap X360 just to play the handful exclusives it has. At this point I'm not going to get it, but instead will go for an Xbone. I won't buy a single multiplat for it, will just use it to play X360 and Xbone exclusives, which actually makes a for a decent library, probably equal to the Wii U exclusive library.

Still, I obviously won't pay full price for such a console. I'm only going to buy it when MS cuts the price to under 250 Euro or gives me the Xbone+Samsung TV for 500 Euro deal. I'd jump on that second one any day.

Your interest is kind of my point.  There has to be a pretty decent amount of people thinking this or something similar.  Once someone owns the XB1, there is a high probability that they may spend money in other areas that they hadn't planned.  Even if they only buy system exclusives, it's a win for MS.



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Goatseye on 05 September 2015
Bryank75 said:
Goatseye said:

It was on X360 as well and the media is milking it because there are still millions of people waiting to transition to 8th gen.


Glad you realize that the gaming media are biased bags of shit....

If you take a look at amazon USA sales or sales data from europe or the NPD's since E3, we can only assume that BC was nothing to most people who have yet to upgrade. It has no bareing on their decision and is a complete red herring... used similarily to all the "cloud" talk back at the start of the gen. If there is one thing MS is good at it is marketing and buzzwords "Azure", "Cloud", "Offloading".... it is kinda sickening that there are people who take these things for fact. 

Almost three years in and there has been minimal use of any cloud tech....nothing you could really tell any difference between if it was just normal AI etc. 

Then they show this "Hololens" (another great buzzword) and the media and MS portray it as some amazing tech when the viewin area is absolutely tiny.. 

It is all rather pathetic but hilarious.

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Zappykins on 05 September 2015

It's awesome. I was really disappointed when the twins said they weren't having backwards compatibility - specifically for my digital games - seriously? Why can't my PacMan DX play on my Xbox One?

The WiiU allowed backward compatibility - but not up-scaling. That was a big disappointing as the Wii really needed it compared to other consoles and 1080p TV's.

It's a really nice feature to have. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.



 

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Mnementh on 06 September 2015
Tachikoma said:
Mnementh said:
Tachikoma said:
Mnementh said:

To cite pokoko in this very thread: "It will probably sway a few people here and there who need to sell their old console to get a new one but don't want to sell their games. Everything positive adds to the collective appeal of something you spend that much money to buy."

Additionally it may be more convenient to play your old games on your new console. The new console is probably properly attached to your current TV, the older ones may  be removed to the attic. Or worse, the older ones don't have HDMI yet, while the new one has. Little conveniences like that can have a big effect.

I disagree, playing ps1 on a crt tv with composite cables looks better than playing ps1 on a ps3 via BC, because that's how it was intended, HDMI gives the ps1 resolution nowhere to hide its limitations.

 

Just something about using the proper hardware, too.

Bolded underlined: Is your house filled to the roof with old tech?

Pretty much, I have 40+ consoles.

Wow, you leave me a bit speechless. Good for you I would say.

Anyways, back to topic: This is far from usual. Most people don't keep their old CRT TV and some even sell old consoles to be able to purchase new ones. But even without the CRT, having BC is more convenient for most.

I'm not saying BC is a killer feature or no BC is a dealbreaker, but having it is actually neat for some people.



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Areym on 06 September 2015

I really don't think the BC will create much of a buzz, at least in the scale you are speaking of. 



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