Personally, this doesn't bother me, but I will say that if people are going to complain about micro transactions in stuff like MGSV, they should be complaining about this as well.

I don't know why people complain so much about microtransactions or actual P2W games.
It's and industry and not a cake sale. The only reason why these exist is because people buy them. Even the OP weapons are on sale just because there are a few assholes out there that would pay an arm just to have an extra mm on their e-penis. Companies are answering demand, as much as some of us may hate it.

I agree, very much a double standard. And while I think the costumes aren't that bad (a rip off but inconsequential) the fact that they sell guns is very greedy and simply definately borders on 'pay to win'. Especially the tactical shotgun was considered to be overpowered.

Destructoid actually wrote an article on this some time ago http://www.destructoid.com/the-last-of-us-multiplayer-dlc-is-not-okay-290010.phtml

Oh btw. completely forgot, here's the link to the Gaf thread in case you wanna check that one out:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1106189

I don't mind microtransactions in multiplayer modes as long it's just skins etc which don't affect gameplay like gears of war. Pay to win is garbage.

As long they are just cosmetic, I'm fine with them. The moment it turns to p2w, #fuck(insert company here).

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..... never mind. It's Naughty Dog

I'm an experienced TLOU online player (level 400). From the new weapons, the best one is the tactical shotgun. It is good for medium range. The DLC purchasable weapons aren't good, mainly because the only 2 purchaseable weapons (purchasable are the ones that you must get with points during the match, not DLC ones) that are worth are the regular shotgun and the military sniper. You could argue that the El Diablo also is a good weapon and that the flamethrower has its uses.

I don't get pissed off with these guns because they simply are on par with all the others. The best gun on the game and the only one that's a bit OP is the hunting rifle, because the heavy aim assist makes it deadly with training. The semi auto is an amazing all arounder and the burst rifle (my choice) is basically unbeatable at close quarters. The bow is a good weapon (range and silent + it has more ammo) and the shorty is good if upgraded to the max. Basically, the other weapons aren't relevant because they are aren't effective.

In TLOU, each weapon costs points in your loadout. So:

- A purchaseable weapon must be invencible in what it does. The crossbow is DLC but it's useless because it is a long range weapon that loses to the MS and even to the hunting rifle. At long range, military sniper always wins. At short range, shotgun always wins. At medium range, specter (DLC) and assault rifle would be good, but they simply use to much ammo.

- A regular weapon must be either (compared with other regular weapons):

--> Best in class: hunting rifle. It has a lot fo ammo and downs with one headshot. Burst rifle. Always wins at close range.

--> All arounder: semi auto. Effective at all ranges. Revolver. This guy is greaty. It packs quite a punch and, if upgraded, can save you when you run out of ammo.

It's funny that people always talk about the DLC guns while most of them are just on par with all the others. The only one that really shines is the Enforce, because it's a great side weapon.

Anyone who think that these guns are better is the same guy that thinks that flamethrower is OP (shotgun + shot his legs and guy is dead). The OP gun is the hunting rifle. If you dominate it, you win. If your team has 3 guys that dominate it, you will almost ALWAYS win. Best guns are the huntung rifle, burst rifle, semi auto, revolver, bow, shorty and Enforcer. Best purchaseable are shotgun, military sniper and flamethrower.

"No matter that it doesn't even affect the actual game or the game actual value"

you do understand that "value" is subjective right?

i don't see the value in playing single player over and over like some people, in fact to me its absurd to do so

multiplayer to me gives a game longevity so when multiplayer starts to be compromised because of bullshit it then that drops the value of the game to me