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Samus Aran said:
Normchacho said:
Samus Aran said:
pokoko said:





Why, Why, Why? What is the point of a comment like that? Integrity doesn't come from a degree. Are you saying that they might as well just lie about how they feel about a game for the sake of having a similar score?

I'm saying that gaming journalism is of very low quality. And yes, education does make people better at something, that's why they call it education.

From wrong information, to poor writing and spelling errors, I've seen it all in gaming journalism. In abundance even.

It wouldn't hurt if gaming journalism became more professional. Most of them lack the skill required to do decent research into a given subject.

That's why we get shit like this:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/super-mario-maker-hand-2015-7?r=US&IR=T

or this:

http://kotaku.com/guy-spends-entire-splatoon-match-drawing-dicks-still-w-1710914506

Integrity is being honest, and having moral principles. His comment was about the integrity of the writter and about how he would rather him give his honest opinion of the game, and have it be different than the origional, than have him make the review around what would be consistent.

Oh, and as for the articles you linked...The second one is written by a writter who is famous for her crappy blog posts, and the first is written by a guy with a journalism degree and who is actually a pretty talented writter.



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Normchacho said:
 

Integrity is being honest, and having moral principles. His comment was about the integrity of the writter and about how he would rather him give his honest opinion of the game, and have it be different than the origional, than have him make the review around what would be consistent.

Oh, and as for the articles you linked...The second one is written by a writter who is famous for her crappy blog posts, and the first is written by a guy with a journalism degree and who is actually a pretty talented writter.

He's pretty crappy at doing research though. Or knowing what is and isn't racism (which I wrote my thesis on).

I personally have a Master Degree in History and we were constantly being taught to be unbiased and critical in our work/research (and why plagiarism is the worst of all evils in the academic world). I assume the same is true for journalism (they have many similarities in the way research is conducted). So that's why I make a link between integrity and a degree.

The person you call talented lacks both these skills. It takes more than a good writer to make a good journalist.



Samus Aran said:

Most games on PS/XBOX tend to get overinflated scores. I mean, just check the games that got over 90%+.

Look at Arkham City on the Wii U, it got 11 points less on average. Then look at games like Journey, TLOU: R, Fez, Bastion, Flower, Shovel Knight (PS4), etc.

Titanfall, with no singleplayer campaign and not a lot of content got 86%. Halo: MCC, who's online still doesn't work correctly, is sitting at 85%.


To be fair, Samus, the same can be said about alot of the wii u games. 

 

Anyway about the main topic. It's done by a different reviewer so a different score makes sense. Also the reviewer that did the wii u review probably didn't like the gamepad. 



Aeolus451 said:
Samus Aran said:

Most games on PS/XBOX tend to get overinflated scores. I mean, just check the games that got over 90%+.

Look at Arkham City on the Wii U, it got 11 points less on average. Then look at games like Journey, TLOU: R, Fez, Bastion, Flower, Shovel Knight (PS4), etc.

Titanfall, with no singleplayer campaign and not a lot of content got 86%. Halo: MCC, who's online still doesn't work correctly, is sitting at 85%.


To be fair, Samus, the same can be said about alot of the wii u games. 

 

Anyway about the main topic. It's done by a different reviewer so a different score makes sense. Also the reviewer that did the wii u review probably didn't like the gamepad. 

Feel free to give examples and I shall give you my (honest) thoughts on them.



Samus Aran said:
Aeolus451 said:
Samus Aran said:

Most games on PS/XBOX tend to get overinflated scores. I mean, just check the games that got over 90%+.

Look at Arkham City on the Wii U, it got 11 points less on average. Then look at games like Journey, TLOU: R, Fez, Bastion, Flower, Shovel Knight (PS4), etc.

Titanfall, with no singleplayer campaign and not a lot of content got 86%. Halo: MCC, who's online still doesn't work correctly, is sitting at 85%.


To be fair, Samus, the same can be said about alot of the wii u games. 

 

Anyway about the main topic. It's done by a different reviewer so a different score makes sense. Also the reviewer that did the wii u review probably didn't like the gamepad. 

Feel free to give examples and I shall give you my (honest) thoughts on them.


I'm just giving a counter to your generalization about overinflated scores with the PS4 and Xbox one. The same thing could be said about the wii u. I'll pick up a gaming mag and read through it, by the end, I often end up scratching my head as to how they scored some games so highly and not others. There will always be people who agree with a score and others who don't.  



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Why focus on one review? The meta of zombi is lower then zombi U but whatever let's all play victim and pretend everybody is against us and our lord Nintendo



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Samus Aran said:

Most games on PS/XBOX tend to get overinflated scores. I mean, just check the games that got over 90%+.

Look at Arkham City on the Wii U, it got 11 points less on average. Then look at games like Journey, TLOU: R, Fez, Bastion, Flower, Shovel Knight (PS4), etc.

Titanfall, with no singleplayer campaign and not a lot of content got 86%. Halo: MCC, who's online still doesn't work correctly, is sitting at 85%.


Because these are really, really, reaaaally good games? Just maybe.. u know.



Different game different content different reviewer



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twintail said:
zippy said:

So on reading an IGN review of Zombi, it scores 7.5. Good score, however the same site gave the Wii U version a 6.3. Let's get this straight, for Zombi to score higher you strip the gamepad features, remove the gamepad-centric multiplayer and make the graphics barely any better. Also remove the cool dirty lens feature and have the framerate drop to the mid 20fps mark on Buckingham palace, but its cool because its on playstation and Xbox...im lost for words.


Different reviewer with different taste.

and just so you know, the wiiu reviewer actually didnt like the control setup. So your comments on thigs like stripping gamepad features etc are pretty invalidated because that is your opinion, and not something expressed by the original reviewer as a positive for the game.

which should be reason for you to understand why the review scores are different.

I think original price points for both play an unconscious role in reviewing too.

That's fine, but no multiplayer? Wii U games have been marked down because of this in the past eg Sniper Elite, Arkham Origins. On the subject of the gamepad, I think its the majority that praise/have praised the gamepad controls in reviews, saying that it adds to the atmosphere of leaving yourself exposed and vulnerable.